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I think it's a choice .... nothing but a choice ....
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anserun (Fiora et Marie) [deleted] says:
I think that It's the first selection !! Gilles Guias give news in the group "Art-mobile", in the discussion.
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for me it's very difficult to talk about... you are right jean-marc : it's a choice but, i think the judges forgot to see the best fingerpainters in art-mobile : susan, luis, jose andrés, matthew, helen and i forget many, difficult to imagine an iphone exhibition without them !
think that gilles will try to find a solution, i'm really upset and don't want to contact him now, will wait some news.
@marie : gille's news in art-mobile group are 3 weeks old ! think it work no more.
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Looking over the selection, I was surprised at how they didn't seem very recent. It made me wonder if there were any choices from the last few months. I'll look more closely.
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Art selection is always very difficult, and we should congratulate those who are in the show- there are a few excellent pieces in this group, and the exposure is positive for fingerpainters everywhere. It does seem uneven, but perhaps that's the point, to show the capabilities of the medium.
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Congratulations to selected artists. With some exceptions, I agree there are some of greatest fingerpainters. But I totally disagree with the judges in the works choice. I think they all have got works much better than those selected. This below you are his flickr photostream for you compares:
blu.yanaka:
www.flickr.com/photos/34147366@N04/
Xoan Baltar:
www.flickr.com/photos/pirillan/sets/72157612075784207/
Dave Webb:
www.flickr.com/photos/dave_webb/sets/72157619662131683/
Patricio Villarroel:
www.flickr.com/photos/pvb2009/
Javier M.:
www.flickr.com/photos/37903823@N07/
Kevin Barba:
www.flickr.com/photos/monstarart/
Fernando del Hierro:
www.flickr.com/photos/fhierro/sets/72157619535237444/
Greg Durrett:
www.flickr.com/photos/gdurrett/
Steve John:
www.flickr.com/photos/frommystudio/sets/72157622547827856/
Novomir Lobanov:
www.flickr.com/photos/28571700@N08/sets/72157621893178554/
Josh Cassidy:
www.flickr.com/photos/40122408@N06/
also I don't understand that with the aim to choose 75 pieces, only eleven works found worthy of being exposed, and of course I miss some vital artists: Susan (I guess you all agree me), Ben Rabe (nonuts), Luis Peso (9monos), Mike Miller (mikedia), Matthew Watkins, Thierry Schiel, David Müller (real i'Dont). I don't imagine a good fingerpainting exhibit without them, but also have enough work to match Steve, Cameron, Matt, ju5, and a lot of other great artists.
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As I said, most of these were "early" works by these artists. Other than a difference in taste, that might account for the fact that these are not the best paintings by these artists.
I wonder if they looked at the later paintings at all. Perhaps there were just too many paintings for them to choose from.
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I think to our friend Gilles Guias who has worked hard to make this project succeed. He must be bothered by what happens. I think he wanted to demonstrate the capabilities of our tool and of brilliant applications that provides , not just devote artistic works ... In this context, I agree with the comments, it is difficult to limit the selection to a choice so reduced
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11, as said helen, there is 11 paintings from over 2700, does it means the 99,7% of art mobile group does not deserves to be exhibited ?
as a selected one, i feeel bad, i would prefered not to be selected.
i think & hope gilles guias to find a solution to this.
i was hopping that this exhibit were going to bring this fingerpainters movement farest, now with this poor selection i feel that it will do nothing.
will tell to gilles to come to this discussion as sonn as he can.
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I agree with every one and my walls sooooo did not cone tumbling down :) let's keep doing our thing!
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What I have to say is not new. Some of the great artists here( La legra negra, Benjamin Rabe,Thierry Schiel, Susan!!, Bsd, baumysue, hgberk, real I don't and many more) are not selected. My congratulations to the chosen(specially to Patricio and Dave) , but I'm sorry for the gallery that our iPhone artists' Meeting point WON'T be in there.
Let's keep painting and thinking in our next meeting! ;)))
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Hi everybody
I really anderstand all of your comments, and i think that this adventure took an unexpected turn.
But i'm sure that we'll use it to bild something better.
We are trying, with Jeff and Julien, to find the best solution to accomplish our project.
Everyone can read the text we wrote on our main page:
www.art-mobile.fr/
This text reflect our feelings.
Thanks very much for your dynamics participations.
Gilles
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I agree with what everyone has said. I find it difficult to understand the reasons for this odd choice.
When there are so many original and exciting images created both by the artists chosen and many others, why select these?
To me the selected subject matter comes across as drab and colourless, with so many of the pictures being grey toned. Is this because the judges feel that this is in tune with the times? Maybe they could be asked what criteria they were applying so strictly? I would like to know.
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Congratulations to everyone selected!
I am having soooo much trouble keeping up with the great fingerpainting posted here. I can't imagine picking only 12 favourites. I think i would rather jump off a bridge :-)
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@art-mobile (gilles) : you wrote in art-mobile.fr :
"spent considerable time looking at the submitted works and came back with a list which they felt would be good for a gallery showing."
this means that they think there is 2666 peaces not desearving a gallery exhibition ?!
i just saw with a friend the 4 first pages of art mobile flickr group and we found a dozen of masterpieces desearving exhibition and there is 90 pages of paintings !
it's the first time in my life i don't feel well when congratulated by so good friends.
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@gilles let us know if there is anything we can do to improve support the idea and thanks for all your efforts!
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I am an amateur at art criticisim so it would be hard to expand on what has already been said, I agree with everyone. And, it goes against my natural instinct of what's appealing to understand the choice of "those" 11 out of the many hundreds of fantastic iPhone paintings that were submitted.
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A few random thoughts.
I wonder if it would be possible to pick a panel of judges from the Brushes group to pick our own works. I would not like to feel like we were excluding each other though. We all have our individual assets that are valuable. Of course, there are some built-in tools in the flickr software so that it would be easy to look at number of "faves" or comments or views as part of the criteria. Maybe this would just turn into a "popularity contest", but at least there would be a larger selection and probably more interesting and colorful paintings. One thing I noticed about the selection of the judges was that they seemed to favor both grey tones and blank or empty space. I suppose that is the current fashion in art criticism.
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@Patricio: You didn't understand...they probably meant there are 2666 pieces which DON'T FIT WITH THE FURNITURE on that gallery. :)))
Personally, I don't want a solution. My claims are not for myself, are for people, really great artists missed on the way.(related above)
It's far from my way of thinking to fight for being in a place if someone doesn't want me there.
Guys, fingerpainter friends,There are lots of STUNNING works amongst those 2666, so many great artworks to come and plenty of galleries around the world.. Please, keep painting!!! ;)
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i think the big problem is the lack of coherence in this selection.
i d'ont really see the main theme or even some commons points on those paintings.
i'don't really understand what they want to bring with this selection.
why the judges doesn't explain themselves on their selection?
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"That is how revolution in Flickr grew..."
As for me you all should relax =] nobody was trying to please your (ok, our) tastes, the organizators did choose the pics they found suitable for their event. That is their deal. There is a very good proverb (not sure how it spells in english) which says not to argue about tastes. And exactly that is what you all are doing here
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@luis : thanks for enlight me ! and to make me laugh right now ;-)))
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@ruddy : (my english is not good also)
they choose 11 paintings, this means the exhibit cannot be, one of judges is the gallery owner... you see what i mean ?
for me this is a weird way to say we dont want to make the exhibition.
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@Ruddy: they have good taste! Nobody doubts it here! (at least not me) Patricio, Fhierro, Xoan, Dave... are great artists!
We simply were wrong choosing our "fingerpainters meeting point".
The question here is: did they really see the whole 2666 paintings?
My opinion is the same as yours..and the point is that we, the Flickr group saw it as an Event, not as the simple exhibition it is in fact.. My/our fault I guess...
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@ruddy: You're right, not to argue about tastes (at spanish: para gustos, colores), but I think anyone disagree them about the eleven selected works. It's a question of taste over some GREAT artists. But if the initial goal was to choose 75 works, I disagree about the 64 no selected because for their taste there aren't more good works for exhibit. I agree Patricio about it looks an excuse for not doing the exhibition. My regret is especially for the passionate work of Gilles.
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Still don't get the point =] If an author wants to, i think he can always contact their administration (Gelles? judges? don't know) and ask to exclude his painting. Being exhibited or not - is the private deal for every of a lucky eleven. For our group there still remeins the best exhibition ever, democratic and lyberal, with no judges except the authors themselves and with no amount limits. So as for me, the best way of polite behaviour is just ignore the event, which you find so faultful. Who knows the real consequences of making this poor choise? The phrase on their site can be just a short write off, while they met real problems for ex. with their exhibition hall or whatever.
PS Just tried to translate into english the original russian proverb. Epic fail =] Sometimes russian is untranslatable =]
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Well said Ruddy.. I agree ;)
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Well, I think that it had to happen, that our iPhone Art Eden has been exposed to the outside world, and folks are up in arms. But a gallery show is an oligarchy in the best of worlds, not a democracy. The first time that I had a piece pulled from a juried show due to questionable content, I was upset, but galleries are businesses. Personally, I applaud the attempt to judge 2700 pieces, and I think that in a future situation, perhaps we could designate a handful of the group to 'vet' the work to cull the number of entries down as Helene has suggested. I am sad for Gilles that his hard work has people feeling sour, but I applaud his efforts nonetheless.
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in my opinion, i don't speak about the selection itself, i'm really happy for the chosen!:)
but the fact is that when you're making an exhibition, you always have an idea in your head, a main theme, a questionning!
i don't really see it in the selection, the relation between these paintings?
it's not a problem of taste but a problem of understanding!lol
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The selections made are nothing out of the ordinary I must say to be upfront. There are other fantastic works from the selected artists. It's a pity that other great artists works aren't chosen as well. Kinda shocking!
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andrew40848 [deleted] says:
we could continue discussing the finer points of selecting artworks for a gallery, but this is really about expectation for many of us.
as luis said, many saw this 'event' as an opportunity to meet. so i ask—what is stopping us from organizing ourselves such an event, an exhibition and more? and do it right.
also, josé andrés correctly said we should feel for the work gilles has done, and i think he should be involved in new things we try to do.
we're more resourceful together than we realize—of this i'm sure.
so, if i say i'm willing, who else is?
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i'm 100% with you andrew.
my answer to this exhibition crash is to starting a private exhibition of my favorite fingerpainters (hey, just started, don't be jealous, you will certainly be there) :
www.flickr.com/photos/pvb2009/galleries/
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I agree, Andrew! And, sth that I thought but not said yet: Bravo Gilles for the effort and idea!!
My congratulations to Josh and Javier too!!(sorry, I can't remember names from time to time :P)
There's nothing else to say, in my opinion. As Matt said, this is a business, but Matt, real world is what brought us all to this point. I don't know how's your "real world" but in mine, the missed artists are STUNNING!!!
There are great artist and friends in the selection(Kevin, john...). As Jose said, there are better works of them, but it's ok. I think talking more about this is unnecessary. @the chosen: Enjoy the exhibition
@the rest: Keep enjoying your fingerpaintings and lets look forward to what's comming! ;))
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I am SO pleased to see that from this disappointment, even better things are already starting to arise. Any way I can help, I am more than willing.
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"Possibly they were a bit skeptical of art being done on mobile devices..."
Actually, that's understandable. I can't believe some of the paintings that have been accomplished on the iPhone. Seemed impossible at first. Nevertheless, it is frustrating that they didn't take the time to, well, BELIEVE IT. :)
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anserun (Fiora et Marie) [deleted] says:
The paint should be above all a pleasure, not a competition .. is on, I speak as an amateur ... and appreciation of each is subjective .. I am very happy for the elect, each work is as modest attention it deserves, even if it is not the work of a master .. I'm disappointed for our friend Gilles Guias, who believed in this project .. and there would be not just a problem for business ? ... Finally, in my case, it is not going to stop me in my desire to paint and share with those who cast look on my work ...
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I was amazed when I saw my painting had been selected. I was even more amazed at the many paintings that should have been on the list, but weren't. Others have already listed many of the superb artists in this group who, in my opinion, should be included in any grouping of excellent iphone artists.
Never having been involved with a gallery exhibit (other than as a spectator) I have always assumed that the entire purpose of a gallery exhibit is the sale of the art in the exhibit. All art is subjective. As such, this selection is really only the subjective choice of these particular individuals from their business viewpoint.
Perhaps the fact that not enough paintings were chosen as being acceptable for exhibiting in their gallery is indicative of a change of heart regarding the commitment to use the gallery space for the exhibit. Possibly this was a business decision due to that change of heart and a way to get out of that commitment somewhat gracefully by not finding enough worthy paintings to justify use of the space for an exhibit that they probably don't think would be profitable for them.
I certainly don't think it appropriate if that was the reason but, as a lifelong cynic, I suspect it may have played a part in this outcome.
We will not be any worse off for not having our art exhibited in this particular gallery.
The opinions of the members of this group are the most significant to me. If artists such as those who frequent this group find something worth commenting on in my work, I feel fortunate indeed. Your opinions are more significant because you are kindred spirits and know what goes into these little works of art.
Let's just keep making our art and, if others don't choose to appreciate it, we can always count on each other to provide the feedback we need to keep improving.
Many thanks to all those who worked to further this project. It's just a shame that the work may have been for naught.
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I note especially that Gilles Guias had a sincere desire to do well, I'm sad that his dream does not end as hoped .... I think we should thank him for this attempt
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anserun (Fiora et Marie) [deleted] says:
I agree with you Dave and Jean Marc ...
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What Gilles did was great and he is probably the most disappointed of all of us.
I love the idea of our own "secessionist" (one of my favorite styles btw) exhibit. Might I suggest/plea that it not be in Paris at Christmas (the most expensive week of the year. It would have wiped out my savings to go.) If it's in Paris, how about April (I've heard it is quite nice then.) Or San Francisco/Berkely, New York, Tuscany....preferably in the Spring or Fall. I know I'm getting ahead of it all.
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Well, I agree with Jean Marc and Dave too! Reading Dave's comment (a really warm hug my friend!) I 've just realized that we, kind of broke these great artists illusion... And I just want (and need) to explain that all this is about the gallery, or judges... NEVER about the artists.
Again, congratulations!!!
We all are like a big "iFamily", and I guess everybody is with me being happy for the selected.. Nothing to say about the works but Amazing!!! ;)
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First of all, my sincere thanks to Gilles for all his hard work on this. I appreciate any effort to expose the world to the amazing works being created and contributed here.
Being one of the exceptions LLN speaks of, I feel rather like a spoiler in the selected group. Of course, I couldn't think of just one artist to take my place, seeing as how there are so many here with skills far superior to mine.
I think daveart says it quite well. I can come here and witness stupendous work every day, taking comfort in the knowledge that at most my humble work will only push someone onto the next, easily reachable page.
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Luis, thanks for the hug and here's one back at you.
If you meant to include me in the group of "great artists" whose illusion had been broken, please don't worry about my illusions. I had none and really only submitted my paintings because everyone else had. There were no expectations and I've never heard an unkind word in this group toward anyone, by anyone. The only way my illusions could be broken is if I were to discover that this group was not really made up of some of the nicest people in all the world. I'm just happy to be a part of it.
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It has been already said but, anyway: Gilles, you are the best! Thanks a million for all your effort!!!
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@Dave: You are a great man! ;) and I wish you'll save forever the happiness of being selected (that was what I meant, sometimes I can't express with my english ;) You are an amazing artist, with plenty of stunning works and a really nice person. I'm really happy that you are one of the Paris' Eleven ;))
I Hope I will have the honor of sharing a wall with you sometime! ;)
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Thank you Luis. I would be honored to share that wall, too. I look forward to it.
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Greg, you're not any exception for me in the group of great artists selected. Sorry if I never said you. I'm usually very economical with my comments (not lately 8·) because english is very hard to me. You're for me a great artist and you are amazing iworks. In teh eleven selected artist there is none left over. or who I considers that he should not be there. With my previous comment I want to say that ten of eleven are some of my favs and would be in the selection I did myself.
Perhaps I want to say more thinks what my poor english allows me, but my opinion is clear. Eleven selected artist deserve (any doubt) to be here, but I don't understand that judges was unable to select other 34 artist at the same level for complete the goal number. Only this.
Congratulations (sincere, my friend Patricio know it) to selected, thanks to Gilles and good luck for the exhibition.
(sorry as usual for my poor english)
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Jose Andres,
I took no offense whatsoever in your post. I just meant to say that I stand in the shadows of many great painters here, from whom I have learned so much.
I guess I feel the same as many others do here, that so few images can't really show the world (well, those who will see the exhibition) the breadth of imagination, skill, and feeling being put into these works.
Also, your English is excellent, and far far better than my Spanish. Anyone who bothers to write and post here in their non-native language deserves the thanks of the many who only speak English.
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I second Jose. Greg, you are a GREAT artist and OF COURSE, you deserve to be selected!!! You are not in the shadows, think in me, only who know me mentioned me. I have not many paintings in Flickr, not compared to 500 or so from Jose, Patricio, Susan...
I had almost the same problem that Jose. And, I'm sorry that almost all of our comments were destined to claim for who's not there than of happiness for who already is. For this, my apologizes, cause I'm so proud of all my iPainters friends..including you, OF COURSE ;)
Enjoy the exhibition, be happy and don't allow all this to let a bitter taste in your mouth!!
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dear luis, bitter taste is that susan, jose andrés, helene, you and so much others has not been selected ! (i said it already in this thread)
bitter taste is that iphone event will not be an event !
bitter taste is that perhaps the exhibition will not be ! (how to do it with 11 pieces ? i just think perhaps the 12 is one by gilles who obviouly deserves also)
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Ah, after reading each and every one of these posts I can say that I understand the business. And sometimes art and business take different turns. Me I'll stick with the artists. I congratulate those chosen, they are great pieces, showing the diversity that can be achieved with the apps.
Sure, I am disappointed. But in a way, not surprised. That being said I think the important thing is this community we have here. It is still so strong. We care about each other's feelings and work and that cannot be changed by any gallery, anywhere on the planet. We have been with each other for a long time, by internet standards, and we've grown as artists together and we will continue to inspire and encourage that growth. This is a rare place and I treat it like gold.
Cheers to Gilles and crew for their efforts, they cannot be faulted, as they are a part of us too. Cheers to the incredible amount of fabulous work that has been shown on these pages and cheers again to the fingers and styluses raised to celebrate this accomplishment. BRAVO! And ^Up^ to us all. I love you!
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Three words: Salon des Refusés
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WOW!! I've missed all of this conversation, but after reading all the comments, I can conclude that this flickr group of artists is as great as I've always thought. You are all caring, kind, loving people who I am proud to associate with. It is my pleasure to continue to be part of this family of artists and I agree with Andrew that if we want our work to be exposed to the rest of the world - art world and regular world - then maybe we should do it ourselves. I, unfortunately, cannot do anything along those lines at this time because of serious medical issues with my husband, but I encourage any of you who might be able to find some time to go ahead!!
You all make my heart sing!! Let's keep painting!!! Love to you all!!
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I am just getting up to speed on this, but I agree with alot that has been posted here. I was surprised and delighted to be picked. I was more surprised to not see some of our flickr favorites to be picked.
I think Gilles and his team have a great vision for the work we have all done and are trying their best to help it be recognized with other traditional art. I keep re reading some other post that he made and I thought there was to be a total of 75 images on display at the show. Did i misunderstand or read into it incorrectly? When I saw the first 11 selected my first instinct was that there will be another update showcasing even more artist.
this discussion does however inspire me to want to organize a show in Chicago this spring........hmmm....
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dear kevin, did you read this ?
www.art-mobile.fr/uncategorized/update-from-the-judges-me...
think we have to wait that gilles has some time to tell us what they (him, jeff and julien) are going to decide.
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I looked at this again and I think that we do need to find another way to choose for an exhibit. This time I was struck by Gilles saying that the judges were happy to be involved. But, if that's the case, why didn't they look at all the paintings? Why did they stop after a couple of months' work? Or did the paintings get worse in the last few months?
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Yeah... IF you're happy please run through the all of our works. I sense it's the inability to run through all 2700 works. But agreed on the part like "the judges are happy to be involved" means that they should. Oh I don't know. Let's just keep drawing. But like to thank Gilles, Jeff and Julien for their effort in trying to make this work for us. :)
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funny that you mention that, Helene, about the quality of the paintings. With the recent changes in Apps- first Layers, then the Brushes 2 update and Sketchbook Mobile, I've seen an upswing in overall image quality...
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I just found out i was picked for the show and have a few things to say...1. Im really honored to be a part of the show as a mobile artist!
2. I was completely shocked by the number of missing artist not chosen! I'm not taking away from those selected already. Congrats to you guys!
3. The choice they made from all my paintings, i thought if i was to be picked, my robots would maybe get a second look.
4. Is there a theme the group is going for? Really random pieces.
Susan, Luis, Thierry, Mikedia?, Francisco.. I apologize if i got the names wrong but really really shocked when i did not see these artist on the list! Once again congrats on the winners
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Javier, I agree your robots are more amazing than selected work, but in any case all your paintings are great and with any one you must to be here. Comgratulations
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I agree with all your thoughts and additionel I wonder why we don´t hear another comment from Giles.
Nevertheless thank you Gilles and his team for your work and vision :-)
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gilles told me he were too busy in other stuff last week, will send him a message saying to come here as soon as he can.
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Thanks for checking cuz.
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Hey all, I know i am late to the discussion (what else is new?)--but I have to comment.
Congratulations to the very deserving artists who were selected for the exhibition. Although unhappy with the NUMBER of selections, i think the artists who were chosen are wonderful choices. When I came to this group, there were only 50 something members--and Xoan, patricio and blu were the only consistent contributing artists at the time. I remember, their works demonstrated not only a great talent and affinity for the Brushes app, but the POTENTIAL of where such an app could go if put in the right hands. They were the ones who got me to seriously consider the iphone and the art apps as a new medium.
GDurrett's perspective (in general) is impeccable and like no other. and I have to say, I am surprised that of all SteveJohn's pieces, they selected teh LEAST abstract one. lol Daveart and fHierro's works are amazing to me. Although, I moreso appreciate the pieces included in iCreated's gallery.
unfortunately, I am a bit unfamiliar with some of the other artists who were chosen, however, their work demonstrates a certain level of talent and vision. So, again,congratulations to you all.
that being said, i agree wholeheartedly with two statements--1) Le negra's statement about them not selecting the other works by these great artists (i feel like they all have created works that have a greater impact on the beholder) and 2) there was a HUGE opportunity missed in this situation. The judges CLEARLY went safe with their choices. I don't know if it is because they do not understand the apps and their potential OR if they strategically selected very realistic work to pick up an audience. I understand when introducing a new medium to the public--it is hard to go abstract, but i think it is ridiculous to have EVERY piece be SOOOOOOOOO extremely realistic...geez. There is no real displayed use of linework, color , abstractionism--i do see some good composition and perspective pieces...
in other words, I do not see enough diversity in these selections. Possibly because there are only 11 (i counted 11, not 12).
But, judges are judges--we have to still keep doing our art--if it is what makes you happy. dont let some crazy judge person discourage you from believing in your work. You all inspire me everytime I come on here. I appreciate every piece that has been submitted to the group because I know what skill, talent, vision, effort and discipline it takes to continuously create such beautiful artwork. *grabbing Susan's thumbs*...for that I give you all (in the words of my nephew) a billion, zillion, two thousand, seventeen, seventeen, seventeen, three million ^Ups^.
Patricio, thank you for doing your galleries. If you want to be seen, folks, display your own work. :-) I am happy to collaborate (after this god awful conference season is over at my job (end of november)) with anyone. I have been offered 1500 square feet of empty office space to show my work in MD. i am happy to share it, get the word out. :-)
by the way, who is in chicago/wisconsin? I will be there next month. :-)
much love to you all.
mia
Originally posted 32 months ago.
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MiaBia_DC edited this topic 32 months ago.
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Whew! Well! First of all, congratulations to all who were chosen! BUT! What a puny, dour show this turned out to be! How big are these paintings going to be displayed? Is the gallery the size of a closet? I had invisioned a show crackling with the energy and excitement I find every day with this group and with many, many images to delight the mind and eye - maybe with a limited number of big blow ups, but at least with a section that is vibrant with diversity. What is selected I have no quarrel with, but there should be more, more, more! As is, it looks to be a very dippy non-event, even tho it is in Paris! Sorry currators - ya just ain't got no pizazz!
Posted 31 months ago.
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andrew40848 [deleted] says:
a new post to the art-mobile website.
update to the discovery process
'After taking some time to think about the best way to proceed, we’ve decided to shift things a little bit.'
'we are going to ask the judges themselves to go out on the web and look through all the iphone art groups and select pieces which they would showcase in a gallery'
this raises more questions.
are they not happy with what they have selected already from this group's excellent artists?
will this mean they will look at the newer work on flickr?
if they could not pick the best works from the art-mobile flickr group, what are they going to find on the internet?
words fail me now—have your say.
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i hate to say it, but I have mentally disengaged from teh whole art-mobile exhibition. I'm sure whichever artist/artwork they choose will be brilliant...but it seems so disorganized now. The judges seem to be a little lost...not knowing exactly what to do. i hope they figure it out...
if not, I think they should just go with the 11 original choices and let it rest.
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I agree with Mia. It is finished. Any attempt now is weird.
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I agree. The judges do seem lost. I'm not sure they were even the best group for the task. Maybe they didn't have the time or interest to really look at what was offered. There were plenty of great works on the art-mobile site that they overlooked. At any rate, it is too late to pick for December and too late to even plan to attend. I'm sure we'll come up with a real exhibit in the future. They have 11 pieces. I'm with Mia. Just go with them. The real exhibition will have to wait for now.
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Deffinantly congrats to the winners that got chosen, but I cant help but think that the judges really didnt look at the works,..I mean since ive joined this group ive seen so many amazing art works, definantly worthy of the prize, yet i see none of them. hmmm oh well lol congrats.
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lol it just doesn't make sense!
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jus5tin [deleted] says:
wow! im late. ive only just seen this i have to say i am speechless that out of all the amazing work in the layers and brushes etc groups they only found 11 images haha oh my!! there is a distinct monochrome vibe to the selection. like they went for a traditional look to fit the gallery maybe. i dont know.
they missed the point though i think.. in iphone art..the magic, that this is a brand new media, new techniques and working ways, a wave of artist who are fully engaged and passionate about their new working practices.
its beyond beleif that certain people were not selected susiq for one should of been in there as standard. so should a lot of other artist as mentioned above by other people. im in shock. what a massive failure. i think those judges have completely missed the boat here. 11 images....jeeeez!
i agree with mia also, i feel like i dont want anything to do with these art-mobile judges now... something that could have been so new and exiting, they have turned it to this.
there is no reason why only 11 images should have been selected, if i can say this, they are not even the best 11 , i could understand if they had finely tuned the selection down to 11 amazing works, but it looks almost like they picked randomly with eyes closed.. no offense intended to anyone selected the works selected are of course good. but i have seen better from the selected artists.
anyway..we still are armed with our mighty swords!(pogo stylus) and mostly a love to make art. keep on doing your thing people. nuff respect each and every, and much love to you all.
Posted 30 months ago.
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My exhibition on January 2010
www.flickr.com/photos/pirillan/4191389414/
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