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In the Viewfinder is a group administrator In the Viewfinder  Pro User  says:

...and I had a bit of a tiff today. Read about it here.
Posted at 3:30PM, 21 February 2010 PDT (permalink)

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*Aqualung is a group moderator *Aqualung  Pro User  says:

Interesting. They'll probably be papering up the doors today :-)

I was in the City Place 'food court' in the D.O.T. yesterday AM for the meetup and was told I couldn't take pix...I was inside, on their property so I didn't. They guard was nice, he said I could go upstairs to the office and request a permit if I desired.
Posted 28 months ago. (permalink)

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iuriss  Pro User  says:

chill out man
Posted 28 months ago. (permalink)

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In the Viewfinder is a group administrator In the Viewfinder  Pro User  says:

Well Luri, I see you haven't been stopped for taking a simple photo.
Originally posted 28 months ago. (permalink)
In the Viewfinder edited this topic 28 months ago.

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In the Viewfinder is a group administrator In the Viewfinder  Pro User  says:

Well I went into Boston today and walked into 100 Federal Street with three Bert Krages “Photographer's Rights” pages. I asked for the security guard supervisor. After five minutes or so a gentleman showed. We shook hands and I gave him my business card and we proceeded to discuss the incident.

Me: I was harassed by one of your employees for taking photos of the building.

Him: Yes that would be correct.

Me: It is my understanding of the law that I can take photographs from public property of anything I can see. Let me give you copies of these so you can better understand the interpretation of the law as a photographer/lawyer would see it. Maybe you can read it over and give me a call as how you might respond.

Him: You must have been on our property. And you must understand that we have some very important concerns about the safety of this building. We have some very important people occupying this place and we are concerned for their safety.

Me: But that does no mean I cannot take photos of this structure if I am on public ground. Is this building more important than the White house which I can take photos off while standing on the sidewalk?

Him: You need to understand our concerns about the safety of this building I cannot stop you from taking photos of this building if you are on public property. Do you understand what constitutes as public versus private property around the building? The different colored tiles on the sidewalk indicate the difference.

Me: Yes I do. But I cannot understand the logic of stopping someone that obviously has some serious gear from taking photos openly because honestly if I had nefarious reasons for scoping this building I would not be interested in taking photos of the exterior but would be video inside and you would never know I did it.

Him: I promise you I will review this document and pass it onto to my superiors.

Me: Thank you very much and I hope to hear from you soon.
Posted 28 months ago. (permalink)

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ChinatownKicks  Pro User  says:

Bravo!
Posted 27 months ago. (permalink)

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Mike from LP says:

Well in all honesty, he was just doing his job. Security is told what to do and what not to do. As I was told when I was trying to get into Devers State in Taunton, MA (which is an abandoned state mental hospital) that if they have strict guidelines they must follow them or else they get let go. Being a security guard you dont get paid well as it is and I know some of them take their job WAY too seriously but its their job to be jerks sometimes... to get the point across because some people just wont take no for an answer.

As far as my experience with Devers State goes... he was a JERK. I drove for an hour and a half to ask if I could take pictures. He was nice at first but then turned into something mean when I said pictures. He said that if I came back later on, my stuff would be taken and my car towed. I asked if there was anybody I could talk to, and he said I dont care who you talk to, this conversation is done. And I didnt even get angry or upset during the whole thing but his attitude towards the whole thing was very unsettling.

Again, they really dont care.. they just dont want to lose their jobs.
Posted 27 months ago. (permalink)

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Joe Driscoll  Pro User  says:

I don't think the two cases are the same, Mikey. In the case of Devers state, you were trying to get onto the property. In the above case, In the Viewfinder was standing on public property.
Posted 27 months ago. (permalink)

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Nathan Tia  Pro User  says:

Well there are many cases where civil liberties are taken away by someone "simply doing their job" - this doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for your rights and educate the people who blindly follow orders.

This issue has been raised numerous times not by security guards, but by federal agents and cops as well. More people need to feel enraged when you are accused of being a terrorist simply by exercising your civil liberties.

Oh - and for those "pro American" harpers saying they are just protecting you and that photographers need to get a grip. My response is - yes protect America - AND IT'S FIRST AMENDMENT.
Originally posted 27 months ago. (permalink)
Nathan Tia edited this topic 27 months ago.

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falconn67  Pro User  says:

Not to defend BoA (for anything; they are evil), I can understand them not wanting you taking pictures of the interior, even though the doors, and if you have stepped off the sidewalk, onto the foodcourt, or anywhere else, they have the right to prohibit pictures.

I work for a different (smaller, but still competing) bank, and have known people who have had guns in their faces, or have been physically pushed around and even restrained by robbers. Knowing where the security camera and other features are is one thing "professional" thieves work at. They do case targets banks and look for the weaknesses.

Particularly in recent months, bank robberies in Boston are up. One guy alone is suspected in 19 Boston area robberies since Oct. Most are note passers, but not all. Last week, well after your stand for civil rights, someone claimed to have a bomb in another local bank.

If you really want to get interesting, take a walk down the street to the Federal Reserve building, right on Summer and Atlantic Ave and point a camera at that building. A lot of the land around that building looks like city or public land, but the Fed owns it, and given what goes on in that building, see how fast security comes down if you point a camera at that building, and see how many guns you can count. While there, wear a shirt with the 1st amendment printed on it, see if that helps.

And before you dismiss me as "not having been stopped for taking a simple photo", I have been. At the Custom House and the Hancock, both before 9/11, at City Hall Plaza, around the Christian Science Center, at the state house in Washington State, in Miami, in NYC, and even in Montreal. Every time I explained what I was doing, was respectful of the guy just doing his job (some were private security, some local cops, two state troopers, and once even an national guard member), and I have always been allowed to continue what I was shooting uninterrupted.
Posted 26 months ago. (permalink)

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historygradguy (jobhunting)  Pro User  says:

The one I find outrageous is that the ICA won't let you take photos inside it IIRC. Wait a minute, you back Shephard Fairey in his right to rework others intellectual property into new art but you won't let people take photos of your artists work?
Posted 26 months ago. (permalink)

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