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ok - what about this? - lots of street, but perhaps a bit short on people.
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Hmmmm, I am going to need the rest of the jury on this, you see, it is not only what i say!
From the small image I can see the person, I think it is quite clever, I think so, what does everyone else think?
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I would say yes, due to the fact that he people are the focus in the shot. Where as if it were just an architecture shot that happened to have a person or two walking through it, wouldnt qualify. Again, this is only an opinion.
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I'd say so. You don't necessarily have to have people in it for it to be considered street. Look at this one, I'd say street.
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John Grey I like this photo. I like the strong geometric lines and the perspective. The focus looks like it's on the guy and although I would prefer a more direct approach I don't think he's photographing the street and the architecture... it looks like a photo about someone's interaction with the street - he's actually indicating what choices lay before that guy. I like it. Perhaps John could say what was in his mind?
nycstef great photo - superb perspective, great use of lines. Not street but I'd invite it to I think this is art if you want an invite :-)
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I'm not really sure what I was thinking - just liked the way the person was walking through the lines and angles of the scene - tried to get the buildings to 'interlock' at the top of the picture - I liked the perspective - as if looking down into a different world. Looking at it again I wish I had caught him a little earlier in front of the dark entrance. I'm pleased people thought it was about the person, which was my intention.
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John Grey Sorry John but I can’t agree with you… this way we don’t know where he has come from either… maybe he came from the dark entrance – maybe not. To me this is an bird’s eye view of all of the possibilities of that little part of the town. I like it just as it is. It’s intriguing. The story is left open to interpretation. But hey you’re the photographer ;-)
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Sure Zixiette, would love an invite, thanks!!!!
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@John Grey - This is, in my opinion, not a "Street" shot. The person to me seems quite irrelevant - it seems like you were trying to take a picture of some architectural forms, and a person just happened to be walking past. The tones of the building and the human are so close that the person almost merges with the building, rendering them nearly invisible. Another thing is the distance you are from the person. I've seen some excellent images with "tiny" people in, but they are balanced by the shear vastness/hugeness of the environment around them - here, there is no real sense of scale - couple of examples of what I mean
www.flickr.com/photos/hughes_leglise/322636408/in/set-134...
www.flickr.com/photos/hughes_leglise/354735016/in/set-126...
www.flickr.com/photos/hughes_leglise/136801132/in/set-126...
@nycstef - Definately not "Street" - A fine architectural photo, but in no way can this shot be classed as "Street Photography" in any way. Unless you count the fact you were in the street when you took the shot.
For me, the term "Street Photography" is a misnomer - I think the term Social Documentary is more fitting. Besides that, I also feel that its more a frame of mind or a mental attitude rather than a formulaic set of rules. Its how you view the world around you. Photos do not have to be taken in the street/city/town - but, for me, can be shot anywhere - the countryside, or the beach for example -
www.flickr.com/photos/7427459@N08/500647205/
www.flickr.com/photos/paulrussell/sets/72157594269933278/
or even
www.flickr.com/photos/thebadgerrevolution/416339272/in/se...
As I said, I believe its a mentality the photographer has to the world around them.
Check out some of L.S. Lowrys' paintings, or Renoir, or Manet, or Breugal - "Street" did not just suddenly begin with Henri Bresson and Magnum.
Mmmm.... beer wearing off, must get more........................
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Here's another that I think is borderline for what I think street photography is - though I would class it as social documentary.
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I hope this group will continue with its flexibility on what are considered relevant photos. it is part of what makes this group fun.
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I'm not sure if this one fits in.
It is someone in a public place, not exactly a street though. But how literally should we take the "street" in "street photography" ?
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@John Grey
IMHO this would be street photography. It's not literally a street, but in every other aspect it's street photography, the scene , people etc..
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@jack.d.ripper - personally, I'd say do not take the word "Street" literally at all. I reckon its an "all encompassing title" - it represents a methology, a style, a way of working, a way of seeing and a frame of mind.
The French painter Edgas Degas was bundled into the Impressionist group/style - but he maintained he was not part of the group. He painted purely for himself, and let others "pigeon-hole" him.
This link has been in numourous "Street" groups on Flickr, and I reckon its the finest example of what I mean. There are hardly any references to, or shots taken in a city/town environment, yet the photographer captures the essence of "Street" in every shot. His primary concern is colour within AN environment.
inmotion.magnumphotos.com/essays/color.aspx
Ensure you have sound up or headphones on. His commentary is top notch as well.
Oh yeah, great photo as well - a few more tourists around her would have helped to show the contrast in clothing, but still a nice image.
Anyway, The Badger will be away for a few days - heading back to my old stomping ground of Amsterdam. Hopefully when I get back Liverpool F.C. will be champions of Europe again, and that my small mammal brain is still actually working. ;-{}
Enjoy!!!!!
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My reason for posting this picture here is because it seems only to show off a technique and it contains no people.
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Paul Lawley-Jones [deleted] says:
Again, I see no people. The focus seems to be the building.
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The Old Man of Seoul [deleted] says:
@Paul Lawley-Jones.
I dont think they are 'street'. Good shots but not street.
In this one we have people but they are surfers on a beach. Again a good shot but..
www.flickr.com/photos/gdgrillephotography/518930254
All rights are reserved on the Flickr posting so you will have to follow the above link.
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I agree with all - not street.
The first two from Paul - mmmmm.......good photographs.......but..........well....no.
The surfer one is a good shot, but (for me anyway) it hasn't got that "edge". Its more like a urrrmmmm how to put it.........travel brochure.
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STRIKE 2
These photos have been removed from the pool and re-submitted.
They will be removed again and if they make their way back here by some random and obscure reason, the first members will be banned from the group.
You asked for moderation and so here it iis :o)
www.flickr.com/photos/geppo985/530701215/
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And this one......
This is a statue used on the musuem and not a person. Therefore does not fit into the group pool. Please do not resubmit!
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This photo also doesn't belong here as it features a building and doesn't have any people in it. Sorry jack.d.ripper. You've submitted some brilliant street photos to the pool, but this one's a miss.
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The Old Man of Seoul [deleted] says:
This is one does not fit with the guidelines of the group and has been removed.
A mail has been sent to the poster
www.flickr.com/photos/isarondon/540424150/
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The Old Man of Seoul [deleted] says:
There is an anti-censorship campaign underway against Flickr. The pool was spammed with ths image and I have removed it.
www.flickr.com/photos/gov/544469870
Personally I am interested and concerned about Flickr's approach to censorship and have contributed to a discussion on Thomas Hawks stream about it. However the BSP pool is not the place for the debate.
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This?
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[kerry pringle] none of those three are street!
The Old Man of Seoul I agree neither of those are street though the first one is great so I gave it an invite.
bnz506 I like this very much. If it gets booted out, I'll invite it somewhere... if it stays, I'll heap on some praise. Either way you should be happy.
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The Old Man of Seoul [deleted] says:
@bnz506, Looks OK to me.
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This isn't on the street, its an interior of a public place (a cathedral), but I think the spirit is the same of street photography. Is it ok?
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@trazmumbalde - I would say yes.
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@trazmumbalde: I would also say yes
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ReDAnDERSON.net [deleted] says:
i had added this photo to the pool. i am really sure it will fit with the theme.
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The Old Man of Seoul [deleted] says:
@ReD, It looks ok to me.
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ReDAnDERSON.net [deleted] says:
thanks, most of my recent work this past month had been street out in the city stuff. i wont flood but ill post one or two a day. thanks this group is really rad
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D. Alan Harris Photography [deleted] says:
I recently posted a close-up photo of a baby being held by a man in candid, non-familiar street scenario ( flickr.com/photos/dalanharris/562531324/#comment721576003... ).
I was given this comment by member LSR2:
"I don't really consider this a street shot even though it's not your kid. Where is the background. It doesn't necessarily have to be a street, but something other than the subjects."
I find this to be a very interesting comment and approach to the genre of Street Photography.
This is my response:
"That's the beauty of street photography - it's a fluid medium, and if you set yourself to stringent standards in a fluid medium then you are defeating the purpose...and losing out on some fantastic shots."
I am intrigued by the genre, but am fast becoming bored by the countless homeless person and gritty street scenes. Granted, they are street, but normal people walk and talk the streets on a daily basis. As a street shooter, you have to adjust on the fly just as quickly as any of those other shots - but somehow capturing normal life on the street isn't street? I beg to differ.
Anyone care to chime in?
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Coroner,
I think both of you are right.
I 100% agree with your comments about capturing normal life on the street.
Normal life on the street for me is street photography, people walk, talk and interact with each other in absolutly fascinating ways and to capture that for me is 'street photography'. The other compositional stuff comes in after. It is therefore a "fluid medium" with little in the way of 'stringent standards'. I could go on but I won't.
As far as your shot is concerned. I dont want to sound blunt but I think you could have taken that in the front room of your house and we as the audience would not have known any difference. Its a great shot has a lot of human interest but where is the street setting or street interaction.?
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Fare enough....
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Just to add to what The Old Man says, Coroner, what you have is a wonder portrait, but where it was taken is anyone's guess.
Along with at least one person, good street photography should show some public arena/background/ environment/atmosphere to add to its legitimacy.
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its not 'people', but a 'people mover'. still street?
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Kiran - A photograph of a tram is not a "street photo".
There is no human interest at all - the only figures in the scene are purely inconsiquential to the image as a whole.
If you had shown some sort of interaction with the passengers, as an example, then it might have fit in to the catagory - but as it is its non street.
@Old Man - I'd have to strongly disagree with you regarding your statement of:
"The other compositional stuff comes in after."
Surely composition should be the prime factor when taking the image? However interesting a scene may be, if the final image is poorly composed then the image will be sub-standard. But, some scenes that initially may seem uninteresting and boring have the potential to be good photographs, if the composition and framing are spot on.
If you want to see some of the best examples of "normal street" life, I suggest you check out these:
www.flickr.com/photos/moxette/
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www.flickr.com/photos/davidsolomons/
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Badger:
Thanks for the links to those street shots. I am struggling to get shots like that without making people mad! It seems whenever I go to shoot the picture, the subject scowls or turns their head! I am so new and it's frustrating me! Any advice? Also, whenever i do ask if I can photograph someone, 95% of the time they say no! Help!
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This photograph was taken while standing in the street, and involves people interacting with an architectural form in a popular place for people to stroll, but there's no visible literal "street" context. So is this kind of photo in or out?
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Orbitgal, Make up or get printed some cards with your email and web site addresses on. If your going to ask if You photo someone ,give them a card and tell them to check out your site, usually works for me.
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Thanks, Wittaman...I was thinking about doing that...;)
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Heya, I'm new here and really interested in getting more comfortable taking street shots.
I do want to ask about this one though, does it count as a street shot?
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ReDAnDERSON.net [deleted] says:
slightly north, i think this would be put to a vote. its a really rad shot holding its own. i think when it has come it. its usually a question of. is this a shot of a building with people being included in a shot. or is this a shot of people interacting in an urban enviroment. admins would have a final say of course. in my opinion if the shot would emphasize and focus on the people more. it would be street. the photo, in my humble opinion, is more a urban shot with people in the shot. the people are not really the subject of the photo.
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I'm on the fence about this. I took it for the range of actions by the passerbyers, but the sign somewhat dwarfs the people.
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Another one for the philosophers.
It's on a street, but is it street?
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I have two pictures I would like to submit, but about which I have doubts for different reasons.
The first is this :
Clearly it was taken indoors. But to me it is one of the best street photographs I've ever taken.
The second is this :
The problem with this one is the subject - it's my son. But as the description I have added to the picture indicates, it was taken very much in the spirit of street photography.
Any thoughts would be most welcome.
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Is this street photography? im new to this so please tell me what you think.
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Is this street? altough the car, there is people-photographer intereaction here.
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@Orbitgal:
The business cards is a good idea, thinking of doing them myself (name and email addy only).
Don't ask people if you can take their picture, just take it. If they see you, just smile take their picture or indicate with your camera you'd like to take their picture.
Most times I find that people tend to ignore you or at least pretend to. If they don't want their picture taken they can always turn away.
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is this ok?
i did ask his permission to take his photo, does that make it not allowed? also, i made it black and white except for the "blood", not sure if that is too much editing.
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Slightly North The focus is on the building rather than the cyclist, even if your intention was to capture the person as your focal point, so I wouldn't class it as street.
hardline joe This is tough, the top one I agree with your take that the sign overpowers the people, it loses it's focus.
Your 2nd shot, very clever, the focus is the person on the bike, I would think it fits.
an untrained eye I think they both fit
patchworks134 Yep, it is street
zntgrg Yes, I think it works!
alltoomuch Yes, it's fine
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No. This photo has no people in it.
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So does street photography necessarily have to have people in it?
There was a recent thread on the Hardcore Street group with samples:
www.flickr.com/groups/onthestreet/discuss/72157602437645231/
It seems to me that it may be very difficult to take a street shot without people, though not necessarily impossible depending on the definition.
Sorry, I'm to lazy to manually copy all the links in the post, if it is inappropriate to link to a thread in another flicker group I apologize... :)
Also to the example above where the subject turned out to be the photographers son, so what. It's candid. If you hadn't told me it's your son, I wouldn't have known (and it's an interesting shot either way).
HCB shot people he knew in situations that looked like he didn't. Does that not make them 'A Decisive Moment'?
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First I would like to note that just because its on HCSP doesn't make it infallible. I know thats not what you were saying jeckyl, but for general info.
Secondly, I agree that street photography doesn't necessarily have to have people in it. To me its more about the mood/setting than about the subject matter, though both are important.
Thirdly, I have a shot that has my brothers girlfriend in it. It was still candid though, so I would consider it street:
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tiffany: Totally worth pointing out. I should have mentioned that the samples referenced in the HCSP were on in-public.com.
FWIW ;)
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but FOR THIS GROUP...your pics need to have people in it...OK?
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Orbitgal: My post was not a critique of what is proper for this group, just a response to a post above about it not being street if there weren't people.
IMO (uneducated an amateur at best) the post above isn't street (the pigeons). But given the "Beginner" title, I thought it could be interesting to see the examples in the link I provided.
No offense or criticism of the rules for this group were intended.
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Hello,
I only just discovered this group, and street photography is my fave topic - but since I don't really dare shoot people I don't do loads. ANd when I do, I fear it's only incidental.
So instead of spamming the pool, here are four of mine that I wonder if they fit or not in here - thanks for letting me know!
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Yes,
Yes,
Yes,
Maybe
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_[deleted]_ [deleted] says:
OK,
OK,
OK,
I'll hold, then? :)
Thanks!
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eight59cc Pleasure
Shereen I will say ok on this one as I imagine you were trying to get the tourists even though the horse is in sharp focus.
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I purposely took this photo to make the man look small compared to the huge Church entry.
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I am still learning what counts as street so I appreciate your comments.
Thanks in advance.
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Dave...read all the above...anything goes as far as street...BUT FOR THIS GROUP...it has to have people in it. Cheers!
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Edward James I would have to say no on this count. It is a very fine line and unfortunately even though you took it to make him so, he is almost incedental in this shot to the building.
At first glance, one wouldn't know that that was your focus.
Ta
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Suppose this is not typical street photography, its mountain rather :)
I thought the szene was odd/funny, so I took the shot. But would you regard it as 'street'?
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Hello,
I'm new here on Flickr and just posted this to the group pool (didn't notice this thread before submitting).
Admittedly not a conventional street shot, but what do you reckon?
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Cool shot helgipelgi! I think it's street, but I think everything is street. Second opinion anyone?
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Hello to everyone! I'm new fo this group and, especially, for street photo...but i'm trying! ;-)
What do you think about this pic? Maybe, it's a good idea to watch it in a bigger size...
thanks for eventual comments...and sorry for my english!
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and about this one? it's a shot, taken without pointing, walking around centre of Milan.
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new to the group. tks Lamont
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not exactly street, but focus on people in public, or public people?
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Are pictures taken in malls considered street?
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www.flickr.com/photos/jon_laurie/2243603838/
Does it need to have people or are things that represent people cool?
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I've just joined, and on reading the rules about what constitutes "street photography" had second thoughts about a couple of my images - including this one...
Given that:
* Passers by tend to give them a second glance before realising they're not real.
* Some people seeing the photos think they're real before having the fact that they're dummies pointed out.
...does this stretch the definition a bit too far?
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Hey I'm new to the group and 6 months new to photography. I have an interest in street although after looking through the photos in this group and other street groups, I'm still kind of clueless as to what street photography is. It seems that, in this group and maybe street photography in general, there should be people and you should capture a moment. But how does this style differ from photojournalism? This might be a bad example but if I saw an accident, took a photo of the medics all frantic over an injured person is that street or pj? Anyway, here's a photo:
street?
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Opinions on these please... thanks
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New to flickr and of course to the group.
But I am a photographer for many years
This one I gave the title 'my way'
The kid has finished his day in school and came down to the port for fishing. He looked in the sea, went back a couple of steps, threw his line with the hook and the bait in, put the line down, walked to the end of the dock, sat on the very end of it, and start talking to the fish.
I bend down on my knee and lift the camera, but he saw me just before my click
didn't got exactly the pic I wanted, but I am pleased with the result
John Grey I think it is only if you think so :-)
ReDAnDERSON.net very nice frame
an untrained eye, I like your b/w picture
infinitmi I like the angle very much
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Here are two that I submitted, but didn't make it to the pool - I was a bit surprised that they didn't fit in.
 
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Hi, I am new into street photography. I would like to know whether this can be considered as a street?
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I'm surprised they didn't make it in either. The one on the right should definitely have made it in in my opinion.
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Hi, I'm new and just sort of moving into street photography, is this along the right lines and if not, what can I do differently?
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Sorry about a lot of photos not making it in the pool. All other admins have absconded and no takers for modding.
I logged in and had over 3000 photos to moderate, it was really much quicker to deny all than moderate the pool.
Please re-submit and I will try keep on top of things.
Ta muchly
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Is this street?;
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Same question from me on this one:
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Hi new to the group. Is this shot acceptable?
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I'm surprised they didn't make it in either. The one on the right should definitely have made it in in my opinion.
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