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Plz check this out.............
![The Daily Ittefaq's Copyright Violation.......... [Dhaka, 15 July 2008]](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/2669739559_e6dfb70c91.jpg)
Posted 47 months ago.
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Shame on NEWSPAPERS of Bangladesh. The dirtiest thing they are doing with our photography.
We should build awareness and call for a Press Conference.
Posted 47 months ago.
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Hasan Bhai.......... this has happended before the wound of The Daily Star healed........... yesterday The Daily Star issued the apology for the violation in their Star Campus magazine.......... they did the same thing with our fellow photographer Monir too (Catch the Dream)........ Monir was actually proposing a meeting with The Daily Star Editor...........
going public is one thing that we can do......... to make a BUZZ........ nothing less than proper awareness campaign will heal this..........
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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Two things we can do.
1) We can sue them – that is very complicated because victim has to run to court – lots of harassment involved.
2) Call a “Press Conference” at National Press Club – invite media and newspapers authority. I this way we can send our voice to everyone.
Posted 47 months ago.
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I think before doing that we can give them an email regarding their photo feature, that describe, what they did and how its brake the copyright law so that we are expecting an apology from them. If they disagree than we will go for further step as you (M.R. Hasan) said.
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I think we should go for hasan vaiya's 2nd proposal.
Posted 47 months ago.
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yes hasan vai ,.
we can call a press conference . It s a good idea
Posted 47 months ago.
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some problems are there in Option 1:
you can't catch the newspaper......... they'll say that the ones uploaded the pics in Facebook are the culprits......... when you upload the pics in Facebook, you have to certify that you own the pics......... so, its actually the fault of the ppl who uploaded pics........ the newspaper would go clean and you can't catch them....... but you can tell the newspaper that they cannot just rely on the claim of some amateur individuals when they are using the things professionally.......... checking validity of these things is a part of their professionalism that you can question........
Option 2 seems more effective to me......... one sue against one newspaper is not going to solve the overall issue......... you'll continue to see these stuff in other places.......... how many can you handle?........... its a matter of lack of awareness and complete disregard for the rights of the ppl who don't have a voice or choose to stay silent or simply not privileged enough.........
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Let's have a meeting with the editors of the renowned newspapers.
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@Monir:
I think its not just newspapers we are worried about here......... what about the other media?......... if we sit with some newspaper editors, we would miss others........ they may not be that renowned, but they do count........... and this way, you simply can't reach at the millions of ignorant violators or accomplices to violations......... and lastly, I'm not sure whether you can manage that many appointments with newspaper editors that easily......... they are busy ppl.........
Posted 47 months ago.
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Hasan vai's second proposal is great.
BP must arrange a press conference regarding this issue.
i think we will find support from other photographers too
those are victims and non members of BP.
Posted 47 months ago.
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I am really apalled at the insensitive audacity of our print & eletronic media regarding the copy right issue.
Here is a reverse scenario which really happened recently.
A publishing house in New York asked very nicely to publish a photo of mine ( which was available freely in the net ) in a book.
For the benefit of everybody I am providing the whole letter.
" Hello sytoha!
My name is Eri Hamaji, and I am the graphic designer currently working on the book on James Joyce scheduled to be published from Mark Batty Publishers NYC this fall. The purpose of the book is to provide readers with compelling visual renderings of James Joyce's dense but important ideas about humanity and its relationship to language.
While looking through Flickr, I found your photograph Athéna `a la ciste.
flickr.com/photos/sytoha/2346214980/
This photograph would make an amazing addition to the book, and I am writing to ask permission to use the photograph for “Everyman’s Joyce.” In order for the photograph to be used, however, I need the file in the largest format you have available (minimum 300 dpi).
While I cannot offer you monetary compensation, you would of course receive credit for your contribution in the book and receive a free copy of the book upon publication.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you very much for your attention,
and I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards,
Eri Hamaji
Mark Batty Publisher
36 West 37th Street, Penthouse
New York, NY 10018 "
Life should be something like this, don't you agree !
Originally posted 47 months ago.
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sytoha / Syed Touhid Hassan edited this topic 47 months ago.
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@Russell Bhai:
I've seen your response at the group, Russell Bhai.........
solving this problem is not gonna be easy, I guess....... its an awareness problem and we need to be patient with it......... we shouldn't expect everyone to be as informed......... educating the violators can improve word-of-mouth, which is vital in building awareness.......... lets not go into argument with the violators from the word go......... lets try to convince them first with logic and if it doesn't work, lets try other stuff.......... remember, they already possess the images......... and you just don't know in how many places and in how many ways they can use it and make a mockery of your rights....... one violation can give birth to even more violations........... lets try to bring these ppl under our umbrella; they'll work for you in the coming days......... lets not be heavy-handed from the start.........
Sharif
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@Touhid Bhai (sytoha):
nice example............ I believe a lot of the BP members have received mails like this....... its actually a matter of mindset...........
I received a letter from someone in a far-away land who wanted to use a pic of mine for a personal presentation.......... I mean, how on earth I would've known whether he used my pic in a private presentation or not??........... there was absolutely no way for me to find that guy!!......... still, he asked for permission!!............. I wonder how far are we from those ppl............ let there be light!!
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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I have no idea if any of my pictures have been plagiarised on the net or elsewhere. However, I do know that in the past few months I have had about 6 requests to use photos from my gallery for purposes ranging from using images for book-covers to using an image for a sign-board at a cemetary! Apart from two pictures which were of young family members, I said 'yes' to the others. I was also glad that they asked my permisssion and not just use the photos.
Originally posted 47 months ago.
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Many of my pictures have been used worldwide with my permission.....but from Bangladesh I have received a few requests only, but it's already evident that they are being used without any consent of mine.
Posted 47 months ago.
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Sharif bhai
as a first step send this page link to the Editor of Daily Ittefaq (Rahat Khan) rahat.khan@ittefaq.com
(amio pathatay partam kintu victimder karo pathano e bhalo)
Posted 47 months ago.
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BTW: top most picture is from DRIK
Posted 47 months ago.
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seems that it will not be solved over night, we have to build awareness and it will take time.
I think Hasan Bhai's Option B is more viable. It will build awarness to the press media at least as they will be there at the press conference.
If it does not work, we have the Option A and then we'll have strong ground that we tried civilly
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@Mustafiz Bhai:
I have just mailed to Mr. Rahat Khan.............
lets keep our fingers crossed........
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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yes mustafiz bhai.it's Naima Pervin's image our fellow photographers from chittagong.
Posted 47 months ago.
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If the copyright scenario is so hazy in our country then we have to defend ourselves first.
I have a few suggestions, see if they work for you
1. Go to ' Your Account ' ( In YOU, just below FLICKR, near the top of the FlickR homepage ).
Go to "Privacy and Permission", edit it so that nobody can download your photos other than you.
2. If you really don't want others to down load your photo, withdraw all creative commons license from it. Because a photo having a creative commons license is automatically downloadable ( It actually overrides your download instruction).
3. If you have a free account, then you are in a safe zone because nobody can download your original file.
4. Remember FlickR is just a showcase of your photos, so never post the original file. Make a small ( in bytes ) copy of your original photo and post it. This small sized photo wouldn't be good enough for printing or publishing. If anyone is really interested in your photo then he or she would have ask you for the original file.
These are basic self defense tips. Protect your photos first.
Next steps is to raise awareness of the media.
Originally posted 47 months ago.
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sytoha / Syed Touhid Hassan edited this topic 47 months ago.
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I've seen this today in my teacher's home. Really shame for the f**** newspapers. We should take immediate action.
Posted 47 months ago.
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We all have a "Print Screen" button in our keyboards. If anyone take a screen shot to capture the image, that image resolution is good enough to print in newspaper. Also make any small prints like Desk Callender, Post Card, Web Banner etc. What about it?
Posted 47 months ago.
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Nothing about it, Abir.
Posted 47 months ago.
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@Mustafiz vai, what about informing DRIK about this copyright infringement? I mean, their image also has been stolen in this article.
They are a big group....and when informed, can certainly give "Ittefaq" a shake!
Posted 47 months ago.
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i have sent an email to who uploaded my images at facebook and he
immediately delete my images from his account.
Posted 47 months ago.
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@munir vai
i have already sent an email to Mr. Faruque of Drik regarding
this issue.
Posted 47 months ago.
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@Touhid Bhai:
some nice tips for the members........... but these precautions are not enough, you know...........
if you download the whole page, the spaceball.gif trick does not work......... the image is saved with the saved webpage......... but they will not show up in searches; so, none can find your photo in Yahoo or Google search..........
my images are not under creative commons, but they are downloaded and illegally used regularly.......... so, I don't think license is a very important tool protecting the photos........
I maintain a free account, and had been a victim many a times......
I only upload 600 pixel pics........ I heard from Monir (Catch the Dream) that he uploads only 500 pixel pics......... and you know the result.........
I've been watermarking my images since my Ekushey TV affair........ and those watermarked images haven't been used that easily without permission.......... its an ugly but mostly effective solution.......... but I can't guarantee that someone will not break that too!!
@GDabir:
relax........... we left a letter with Mr. Rahat Khan.......... lets see what happens.......... lets wait for a moment............ with our fingers crossed........
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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Sharif,
Your watermark idea is great ( almost Bulletproof). Should work too.
But in a country, where we are used to pirated software, pirated books, pirated music, pirated movies and pirated what not ; what did you expect ?
Our media and our editors are really sons of our soil. So i fear it will be an uphill task to really get them into copyright issues.
But as always
Inquilab Zindabad !
Originally posted 47 months ago.
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sytoha / Syed Touhid Hassan edited this topic 47 months ago.
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This is a link on really what happens in Flick R
www.jmg-galleries.com/blog/2008/07/07/how-every-flickr-ph...
Posted 47 months ago.
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We must take some steps against these works otherwise they'll do such odd works more. We can't stop them all but taking some steps will alert these kinds of organization or people & at least make them think once before doing such work again.
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a bad news for the mail I sent to Mr. Rahat Khan.......... I've just received a mail delivery status notification for delay......... Mustafiz Bhai, is the mail address OK?......... or is there a server problem for Ittefaq?
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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I concur with Hasan bhai's second point. BP must raise its voice, call an all out press-conference. This can't go on any longer. I mean what on earth are they thinking? Are they civilized people with respect for personal works? This is day light robbery!
Posted 47 months ago.
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Kukur Kukur er mangsho khy na, press con e to orai thakbay
Posted 47 months ago.
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Hmm.............
Mustafiz vai, press conference e to thakbe Journalist ra........newspaper er stuff or contributor ra na......
Most of these thefts are done by the contributors and small writers of the newspaper..... apni jodi Ittefaq er article ta dekhen taile bujhben. 3 or 4 contributor ra Facebook theke sobi mere die ei kaaj ta korse.
Ar onek photojournalist er sobi e to churi hosse. So, they should do something to build awareness....so the press conference should work, in my opinion.
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Mustafiz Bhai has a good point, but Monir also has an important point..........
but I believe it would be very difficult to publicise against the kings of publicity!!......... journalists may be willing morally, but they're still dependent on the newspapers for their work to be published........ it may not be very easy.......... but just thinking it as difficult and not doing something would be inappropriate for our overall cause......... I say lets try out some things......... even if it doesn't work, we still would have the evidence of their extent of corruption........... turning a deaf ear to our effort would be yet another document.........
and if journalists are victims of these violations, I believe that strengthens our cause even further........... and another thing, such a press conference has to be like a "showdown".......... full and wholehearted support from most BP members is of utmost importance........
together we stand!!.............. lets tell ppl............
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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Regardless of the source of the images the editor has all the responsibility that whatever published in his newspaper is clean and they have to maintain their tight control over aquisition of images and any other sort of intellectual property. The editor cannot just say it was the "contributor" or the "intern" who is at fault. If the publication policies of the newspaper is so clear and explicit about these issues then anyone who is going to contribute something illegally would think twice before sending any material to the editor.
The ugly truth is that (and I am saying from my own experience) usually it is that the executives in the media who will always suggest to their subordinates to grab something fom the internet to spice up their article. When greed and profitmaking is the only force that is playing honesty is a distant dream.
I remember there was a Joe Satriani song played at the end of a very populer TV serial.... did he ever got credit for that.....
Posted 47 months ago.
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A lot of discussion has been done. I think we should call up a press conference as Hasan bhai suggested. And then invite some of our top journalist photographers and may be a legal advisor and let them speak against the piracy and create awarness in public.
Originally posted 47 months ago.
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I've just initiated a Facebook Group named "Stop Copyright Violations by the Bangladeshi Media"..........
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23372521751
everyone plz join in and strengthen the cause......... invite as many people as you can......... create as big a buzz as possible.......... let ppl hear that we exist!!
Sharif
Posted 47 months ago.
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bad news for the mail I sent to Mr. Rahat Khan........ I just received notification that the mail failed to reach him...........
Posted 47 months ago.
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here we go again.................. :((
![Ittefaq violates copyright once again!! [Dhaka, Bangladesh]](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2946307179_8271d6851f.jpg)
Posted 44 months ago.
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please give your comments on the picture page, not on this thread......
Posted 44 months ago.
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I have opened a thread here: www.flickr.com/groups/bangladeshiphotographers/discuss/72...
Do try to bring in more players in the actual conversation.
Originally posted 44 months ago.
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NiH edited this topic 44 months ago.
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What is happening Sharif vai?
how long we will be the victims of media?
BP should've been arranging a press conference long ago...
but unfortunately it's still hanging..
BP should do something right away.....
Posted 44 months ago.
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Whats the update?
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sorry!...... no update......
disappointment continues........ I think I've waited for long and I may have to talk to my lawyer....
Posted 44 months ago.
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This time I found another copy rights violation by a Bangladeshi Magazine, they published photos from National Geographic Magazine of September 2008 Issue :D
Stay tuned for the confirmation of victim.
Originally posted 44 months ago.
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this time Prothom Alo does it !!! and the victim is me. 
today i had found one of my picture on their "bigyan projonmo" page (# 3) under the section of "Dhakay thaki". without mentioning original photo link or my name even my permission.
www.eprothomalo.com/index.php?opt=view&page=32&da...
heres the oginial photolink..
www.flickr.com/photos/kaktarua/2661984376/in/set-72157618...
i hv already sent a email to them..waiting for the ans 
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Two months ago The Daily Star Forum Magazine violated my copyright too.
Posted 35 months ago.
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dukhojonok
hotashajonok
lojjajonok
ja kichu valo tar sathe prothom alo
bodle jao bodle dao
ata ke tar e nomuna
Posted 35 months ago.
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ninda jananor vasha nai ..........
Posted 35 months ago.
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Unbelievable ............
shame on them ...
Posted 35 months ago.
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:@ :@
This is too much ... lozza thakle eishob korto na era ..
Posted 35 months ago.
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Bhai ei newspaper ola ra chor er haddi :(
Posted 35 months ago.
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too bad! too bad!
Posted 35 months ago.
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accha ora j chobi ney... atleast name ta to diye paare naki??nijer naam e chalanor ki dorkar?
Posted 35 months ago.
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Prothom alo???...shitt man...
Posted 35 months ago.
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Tani09 [deleted] says:
joghonno...
Posted 35 months ago.
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Hope your email does work.
An eminent newspaper like "Prothom Alo" should take action, once the higher personnel know this matter.
Otherwise, amra "Prothom Alo" ke "Prothom Ondhokaar" naame dakbo. Ki bolen shobai??
Posted 35 months ago.
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thik.ondhokar chhara r ki...chorjobritti to r alor kaj hote parena. jara sharadeshe "bodle jao,bodle dao" slogan tule tule mukher thuthu ghono kore felechhe tarai ei kaj kore...
ami oderke ph korechhilam...amake besh koyekbar operator guranor por bole desk e keo nai...ami ei article er writer er info chailam...dite chayna...then mail korechhi...ekhono kono ans ashenai.
Posted 35 months ago.
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S A N I A [deleted] says:
:o!!!!
ei obostha!!!
OMG!!!
Posted 35 months ago.
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ami abaro bolbo
dukhojonok
hotashajonok
lojjajonok
ja kichu valo tar sathe prothom alo
bodle jao bodle dao
ata ke tar e nomuna
Posted 35 months ago.
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Many minds give good result.
Already many good suggestions come up.
Hope, we jointly can solve this issue in a peaceful manner.
Posted 35 months ago.
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