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Yeeeeeeeees ... Finally we have Aperture 3
www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/apple-releases-aperture-...
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Yeaaaahhhh, only just in time so that I can use it with my new Leica M9. I really was thinking about switching to Lightroom as LR is shipped with the Leica.
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Yee Haww!
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finally :)
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Oh, lordy, lordy, it’s real:
www.apple.com/aperture/
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Wow.
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YIppeeeeeeee!!!
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Can't wait to click over and take a look at this. I have had Aperture for over a year now and have yet to use it. Recently I have been wanting to dive into it but figured it might be best to learn it once the new version was out. Safe to assume there will be a less pricey upgrade version?
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And buried here:
www.apple.com/aperture/specs/raw.html
Panasonic DMC LX-3 support at last.
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finally:)
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wow off to the apple store:)
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PSA: As we wait for Apple to add download links to the Aperture page, now is an excellent time to back up your library :)
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Cost?
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I saw $199 and $99 for upgrades mentioned but the Store is still down.
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woo, sRAW. Off to the store, as soon as it reopens.
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I see why this took some time to release. They had a crap load of awesome videos to produce.
GPS tracking of the photos on the map is a pretty damn sweet feature!!
New dodge and burn tools...FANTASTIC!!
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was just looking at the RAW list...Pentax K20D is supported but the newer K-7 that I was about to upgrade to.
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Store's back up!
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Store's back up. Officially 199 and 99 for upgrades.
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Love this quote from the article linked at the top...
"Aperture 3 is (to continue the boxing metaphor) in effect a massive uppercut aimed at Adobe’s Lightroom with a feature set so robust that it places Aperture massively ahead of Adobe’s latest iteration. They say competition is good for the consumer. In this case, it’s great."
I will be buying this today!!
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Now we can stop reading whines about Apple not supporting Aperture users. To be replaced by whines about what didn't make the cut in A3.
Just kidding (mostly) :-)
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Anyone get their email from Apple with the link to the demo download and serial?
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Now I have an excuse to upgrade to Snow Leopard! :) It's looking like Philly is about to get smashed with another big snowstorm. Now I know how I'll be spending my snow days off from work (fingers crossed).
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Can I buy and download, or physically pick this up from the store today? (upgrade version).
this looks to have some killer features for me - Faces, Facebook export, non destructive image editing, project / library merging
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I think if you are upgrading you pretty much have to download it, but I could certainly be wrong about that. I do wish that they offered a physical version of the upgrade only though. It's nice to have a real disc and manual, etc.
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Agreed, but if I can buy the download, I can do it tonight :)
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haha...yeah, I'm going with whichever allows me to play with it sooner as well!
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Updated our group homepage with an overview of some of the features. :-)
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I'm at work, has anyone downloaded thr trial yet? Please DISH if you have.
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Apparently (from the download page) - You have to download the full version, then pay/activate with the serial number, then it will import your Aperture 2.1 (or earlier) library. Trial version doesn't import your old library; only the registered version.
Now, if everyone could just please stop downloading Aperture 3 so that my download can finish faster, I'd really appreciate it. ;-)
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Not in spanish!!!!!!! I hate this things of apple
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my dl link and serial has not shown up yet either...
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tomnorth [deleted] says:
Hot diggity!
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Could someone send me the demo serial pls :-)
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DL link: appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/A...
A trial serial: F-349-YAX-243-YBB-261-QMV-435-QHG-FEA-5SMX
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Now there's no reason for me *not* to upgrade from iPhoto '09. :]
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tomnorth [deleted] says:
I just checked out the list of new features and all I can say is WOW! Powerful slideshows, non-destructive brushes, presets, the list goes on and on. This is truly exciting. Our neighborhood Apple Store has it coming in tomorrow. I'll be among the first in line to buy the upgrade.
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I downloaded a trial with the trial serial number and everything looked awesome. I relaunched and followed the link to buy a full serial number. When the transaction was done the serial number was on the confirmation page, I didn't even have to wait for an email. Running fully activated version of Aperture 3 right now. Love it so far.
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I'm bummed the K-7 hasn't been added, too. I have a pair of them and have already sold off my K20's. Hopefully they will get on it now that the app is updated. Thank goodness the K-7 shoots compressed DNG right in camera.
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WOW!!!! Just checked out the new stuff..... wow...
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Been waiting years for decent geotagging.
Old workflow:
Shuffle of Aperture, HoudahGeo, Geotagger, Maperture, Google Earth, Google Maps, Flickr Exportr, Flickr Uploadr, and hell.
New workflow:
Aperture 3
Apple > Adobe, but I think we all knew that.
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Has anyone noticed if I can save Nikon picture profiles in all these presets? And can someone explain the sRAW mentioned as a new feature? One of the things I'd hoped for was better raw processing.
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I'm on cloud nine. All the features i wanted are there! including LX-3 support! Thanks for the download link. Mine didn't arrive yet from apple even though it's been 2 hours now. Can't wait to pay for it and use it on my library.
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Curves!!!
They made us wait, but they did not disappoint. This is a great upgrade.
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I just went to the local Apple store, but they don't have it yet...Sigh...Some of the workers didn't even know it was out yet! Guess I'll be clicking through my order now. YAY!
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The fastest way to get it is:
> Sign up for the demo download (if you don't get the confirmation email immediately sign up on www.apple.fr)
> Install and open the Demo version
> A dialog pops up asking you wether you want to test the demo or wether you wan't to buy the full version online. Select that option.
> You can then buy a serial number that you will get as soon as you have paid the download.
> Enter that number - voilà, you're done
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Yeah my local store didn't know that it was out either. So I downloaded the demo, immediately paid for the trial upgrade serial, entered it and voila. I haven't done much yet in it. Played around with faces for a bit. Browser seems to be slow though. Maybe it's doing some processing in the background. Also I'm not sure what's going to happen to referenced images that were offline. Will they get converted to aperture 3 "format" once my external HD is online? My offline LX-3 RAWs are showing as "unsupported" so hopefully they pop in once the HD is attached. The online LX-3 RAWs work so I'm very happy. They look much better than the JPGs in the few that I've looked at.
Can't wait to play around with it more when I get home.
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Just noticed Apple released an Aperture SlideShow Support Update 1.0 a short while ago. Addresses an issue with playing back video clips in slideshows in Snow Leopard.
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So am I the only one who's really sad that the G5 isn't supported anymore?
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We need to start a thread to share Adjustment Presets now! WOOT!
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@Halix: what happens next.... How does A3 replace A2? Same as usual: you just click "replace" when it sees another Aperture? How are the photos moved from/updated from one to another is what I'm trying to get at.
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@David Madsen Photography: Did you have any trouble converting multiple libraries on different HDs?
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Waiting to download the trial version. Local Apple store doesn’t have copies yet. Can’t wait to use the multiple presets feature and Brushes. Not really forward to Faces, because it doesn’t work that well in iphoto, at least for me anyway.
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Mau3ry, I have not converted all my libraries yet. I am making sure my backups are up to date at the moment. When that's done I'll update the other libraries. Right now I'm just playing with my library on my internal drive.
I don't see why there would be a problem converting multiple libraries. Each one gets done independently. Backups are made separately. I don't expect any issues.
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Just wanted to chime in to say that I'm also somewhat scarily excited about this release...have been waiting for so long!
As far as I can see so far the only negative point is that they didn't seem to upgrade the light table feature which I thought could do with some work. Having said that, I haven't yet had a chance to play with it as I'm currently doing the overnight library upgrade...
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what's the performance like? AP2 is somewhat doggish on my MBP4.1
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I really like that if you go into the Metadata there's a little icon for focusing points. If you hover it will show you where you focused; if you click it, it will remain on and each subsequent shot you view will be overlaid with the focusing grid with the focusing point highlighted.
Thought you may enjoy...
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Soooo, how long did it take you guys to receive the email with your trial download info? Seems like it's taking a long time. Must. Remain. Patient.
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I’m checking out the video tutorials (http://www.apple.com/aperture/how-to/#video-welcome) and there are just some awesome features in 3.0. You can even edit a slide show to the beat of the music. And the presets look awesome. If the trial download goes okay, I’ll be working Aperture all this evening.
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R. Bobel: neat! hope it works with my cams too
[ kasari ]: my email still hasn't arrived..8 hours later... but I downloaded using the info that was posted earlier in this thread, and promptly paid for the upgrade.
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Kasari, my email arrived within a few seconds. Hope it works out!
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I requested it 4 times before it showed up in my mailbox.
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Just found out about this. Took awhile for a new version. $99.00 for the upgrade? Mmm...
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I didn't get the news till I got home from work...WoW!!!!
it has almost everything I was hoping for....
wondering if my Nik plug-ins will start collecting dust.
just watching the tutorials has me a little too excited, if you know what I mean...."SCHWING"
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I finally got it to download -- and I played around with the Brush tools (finally Apple!).... WOW! Check out the last two I added to the Aperture Users photostream.
Now, if they could only improve the noise brick......
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dkfrog, it’s well worth the $99, though one wishes these features were in 2.0. I just finished writing a review of 3.0, and so far I think it’s now a near perfect program. I‘ll be round tripping less and less to Photoshop now.
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Oh, and in terms of getting the email for the trail code, it never came for my regular Mail account, but when I used my MobileMe account, it came instantly. Go figure. I would buy it now, but I‘ll wait for the 30days trial end. No big photo jobs to do this month, unfortunately.
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For those waiting for the email, I posted a link to the trial version plus a serial number above
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Jim (jaytay) edited this topic 28 months ago.
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Is anyone else waiting for the serial key after downloading the trial and paying for the upgrade? I would have thought that that could be pretty much instantaneous (over 12 hours now).
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ive paid for apple app upgrades online and it was a physical copy that I got, no serials in email. does it say that you can pay for the upgrade from the trial? only asking as I've not been able to download it yet.
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I have scanned through the features, has anybody noticed if is networkable?
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> How does A3 replace A2?
The installer asks you to rename Aperture 2 and then installs Aperture 3. After the installation you have both versions on your disk and can trash A2 when A3 works well for you.
> How are the photos moved from/updated from one to another is what I'm trying to get at.
When starting up A3 asks for your permission to update your library. My library takes up 128 GB on my 1TB hard drive, 530 GB were free when I started. The conversion took several hours (in fact the whole night…), after which OS X warned me that my hard disk was full and that I should quit some apps (only Safari, iCal and Mail were running…). The OS didn't react anymore, so I had to reset the Mac. After the reboot my hard drive was back to its normal state, with more than 500 GB free. The conversion worked fine after all, even the image analysis for Faces was already done.
mau3ry sagt:
> Did you have any trouble converting multiple libraries on different HDs?
I have only one library, but I see no reason why this should be a problem, as long as you give Aperture room to grow for the update :-)
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is there an equivalent of gradient tool in Aperture 3.
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Funny, but the first four times I tried to start A3, it crashed before I could do anything. It just came up, teased me with the UI, and then crashed. On the fifth try, it allowed me to start a project, import files and play around with one before crashing, and now on the sixth try, it seems completely stable. I have NO idea what's up with that.
The flickr exporter is disappointing compared to the plug in I've been using to now.
Otherwise, I need to play... there's lots to learn! Seems like a niiiice upgrade.
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WOOHOO! Just placed my order for A3! Wanted the actual disk so will have to wait a couple of days to get it and play, but that is fine with me. Now I need to find a good workshop where I can get a crash course on all of the ins and outs.
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When I purchased the key for mine the key was right on the confirmation page when I was done with the payment. I didn't even have to wait for an email.
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Initial impressions on my MacBook Pro 2.4ghz under Snow Leopard.
Lots of new features. The placement of controls to access some of them seems a bit odd (retouch brush icon v. adjustments menu--what's the logic for what goes where?)
Import - shows the jpegs in my raw files during import itself. Like photo mechanic. Much snappier.
Flickr export - operates like the old .mac feature. Only allows you to create and manage sets that originated in Aperture. No obvious way to add to a pre-existing set on Fiickr that wasn't created in Aperture itself. That's a little disappointing, even though I understand the logic. If you're going to use Aperture to manage the set, you'd need to have all of your photos in the set in Aperture in order to manage them.
Export to version - Noticeably slower than Aperture 2.0. Even hung once while exporting 7 images.
Image refresh between adjustments - Might be my machine but I sometimes see the image blur and then correct itself while I am making adjustments, which is distracting. Pauses between adjustments for the spinning beach ball are much more frequent than under Aperture 2.0.
Adjustment brushes - Nice work, Apple.
Plug-ins - my pre-existing Nik plugins are 32 bit. Aperture defaults to run in 64 bit. So when I want to use the plug-ins, Aperture must be restarted in 32 bit. Oy! I may experiment with running the app in 32 bit all the time just to see how that feels.
Overall - some nice new features and some speed enhancements on import. BUT Aperture 3.0 is currently more prone to crash than Aperture 2.0 and seems to slow down while making adjustments more often. It feels like this app needed a little more baking time back at Apple. Future patches will probably fix a lot of this.
I need some more time with this app before I decide whether to upgrade given performance on my system. The feature set is very impressive. The performance in my initial tests, less so.
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A couple of people have asked but I've not seen any responses...
Does A3 support sRAW and mRAW (as in from Canon 7D). Has anyone tried this yet?
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tomnorth [deleted] says:
I read that it supports sRAW. I don't know about the other.
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Ive noticed the blurring and delay when making adjustments, not too happy about that as it makes it difficult to A/B unless you have multiple versions to compare.
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robertgoldie edited this topic 28 months ago.
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@ronsb: thanks for writing that up. i'm using a 2.53GHz MBP with 4G ram and my experience is very similar to what you describe. The new features look great but performance was lacking. I'll have to play with it more before I upgrade.
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R Bobel: Out of curiosity - what brand/model of back are you using? I don't see this option with photos shot with my Canon 50D or my Sony a300. :-(
Overall though - much better handling of Canon's images. Off to shoot some quick pics to see if I can finally import without running Canon's EOS Utility simultaneously - I always hated that workaround.
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Rob-At edited this topic 28 months ago.
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I think Apple released the update for sRAW and Panasonic Lumix RAW as a Mac OS X update, so even older Aperture users should be able to benefit.
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R Bobel: - Gah, disregard. Figured it out for myself.
For those wondering - it works with the Canon 50D but not for the Sony a300; maybe the newer/higher-end versions of the Sony support it. I found it works with new files or AFTER you reprocess the RAW file for old files. Kudos to Apple on this; now I just have to batch reprocess every single Canon RAW file in my Library. Not too bad since it's relatively new. Oh well, that's what sleepy-time is for, right?
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I'm a lightroom user but I export all my family photos into iPhoto because of some of the "gimmicky" or casual features like faces, slideshows, flickr, photobooks etc. So Aperture seems just about perfect for me... except that it's not.
These are my very unfair and dopey opinion of Aperture so far:
(Hopefully it doesn't offend anyone because I'm not trying to attack. I'm really trying hard to convince myself to switch)
Speed - Why is this so slow? I stole a 2GB chip from the wifes MB and even with a 2.4Ghz MBP w/4GB then it seems to constantly be processing adjustments.
Resource Hog - Lightroom can hit the CPU pretty hard on long work sessions, but even after turning off Face Recognition then with 2 or 3 edits then my fan is at full blast, the proc is pinned at 96% with nothing going on.
File Organization/Size - I'm too paranoid to trust Apple and their "giant library packages" so I set up my own directory trees and point to them. My test batch is about 1.7GB of photos but my .aplibrary is already 2.8GB? I just don't get how Apple manages files.
Crashing - Luckily I'm just fiddling with software because I've crashed to the desktop several times for no reason. Obviously updates will make this more stable.
Tools - The adjustment brushes are very nice, but still fall a bit short in simplicity/results compared to LR so far. And whats with the crop/rotate tools being separate? I know I'll adjust but even after printing the shortcut-key list then there seems to be a lot of unintuitive clicking added to my workflow.
Faces - Faces by project is fantastic if you're doing specific jobs. (But it does seem like Cupertino doesn't have enough "ethnic" people in their test groups. All the white people are recognized fine but my poor family are all twins apparently).
Places - It works great, but with no DSLR's building this in (still!) then it's a great feature that won't be used as much as it should.
Video - As a Canon 7D owner then this is fantastic. Trimming, simple photo/video slideshows, audio beds etc. It's so amazing for simply projects.
Embracing Lightroom Switchers - I'm not sure if anyone could do this, but I really wish there was a way to switch without losing 3 years of work in Lightroom. I have so many months of editing that are tied to Lightroom and if I switch then I simply can't take them with me. I'm considering starting over in 2010 in Aperture 3 (if i buy) but even still thats already 700pics I have to re-edit. Switching shouldnt be so tough...
So there you go. I'm going to give this 30day trial a real workout because I really want to switch. LR3 does some nice stuff, but I like the direction Apple is going with their focus on media output.
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tomnorth [deleted] says:
Just picked up my upgrade copy at the Apple Store. Doing the install tonight. Looking forward to trying out the new features.
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Just picked my copy up at Apple Store... running the upgrade on my library. Depending on how big it is... very slow but it's going through lots of data and structure.
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No, you're not the only one. But I knew this was coming when they released FCS, and Logic Pro for Intel only. Once that happened I started making plans to move from my trusty dual G5 to a new iMac.
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Yesterday I was going to buy, today not so much. I am deeply disappointed that the performance on this is not better. However, it's about par for the course. SL makes my MBP into a hot plate too. CPU idle at 80degrees C.
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I don't see how it could be slow, what CPU/GPU are you using? So far, on a Core i7 iMac (4GB RAM), Aperture has been positively snappy. Everything is very quick.
You don't need to use the monolithic Aperture Library, although I've been using it for a few years, with tens of thousands of photos without any trouble. I happen to vastly prefer Aperture's relatively open project structure to LR.
No crashes in Aperture 3 for me yet, hopefully that doesn't jinx it.
Crop and Rotate aren't completely independent. When you rotate, it automatically crops (or rather maintains the current aspect).
Places isn't just for built-in GPS, you can even use an iPhone to track your movements, then sync that in Aperture and it will know where you were when a given shot was taken. I haven't done this myself yet, but a friend of mine is moving from iPhoto to Aperture for this reason.
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rustyjaw edited this topic 28 months ago.
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Rustyjaw - How does the it track your iPhones GPS, do you have to use app on your iphone?
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Great. I found out about the release from this group! Thanks for this post. I just purchased the upgrade and I'm about to the free trial! :-D
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M.Butler, when Aperture first imports pictures it makes the previews, which can take quite a while (especially if you've chosen a large size for previews). I imported all the pictures I took last summer (after I returned from vacation) and my trusty quad-core MacPro spent overnight rendering previews.
After they were imported it runs quickly, even with a 100k+ managed library that's over 800 GB.
What I do now when I import large batches is open Activity Monitor and check Aperture's CPU. If it's running over 300% then I know it's still processing previews*, and I don't bother it for a while.
*Sometimes Aperture is doing something but it's own activity windows remains quiet — a bug I reported to Apple so I hope it got fixed in A3.
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etherflyer edited this topic 28 months ago.
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Sam the iPhone saves GPS data in the Meta data for each picture. You would be surprised the data stored in the file. I took pictures in Nashville, Memphis, St Louis and the iPhone logged the location in each picture and placed it on the Map.
In fact some people taking shots with a pro camera take one picture with an iPhone so the metadata will line up with the event and location.
The make keychain fobs which are gps's you take your pictures then use software which comes with the GPS to Geotag your pictures taken from a non GPS camera.
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I wish Apple had put the electronic-only upgrade key on the Store website. I went to Apple > Introducing Aperture 3 > Buy Now, and it took me to the store where I could either purchase the full version or the upgrade-- both boxed. No mention of the upgrade key at all. Now that I've bought the boxed version, I guess it's too late to get the upgrade key emailed to me?
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for those that aren't impatient :-)
you can get the disc versions on Amazon for cheaper than the Apple store. Pre order now for 17 Feb release. Upgrade is $94 vs $99
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Lenzflair edited this topic 28 months ago.
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Just got an email indicating that my order will be delayed in shipping due to the weather. Damn you snow!!
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I guess it's a good thing living close to an Apple Store. They had Ap3 loaded on the computers and I got to use it before I bought. Now I'm upgrading my Library on my Drobo... 250 gigs.... does take a bit at Firewire 800.
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another thing to note. I did a cleanup of my MBP getting rid of unused stuff, + running OnyX. performance improved greatly.
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I got an email the order is delayed due to the weather too.
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No, you're not the only one. But I knew this was coming when they released FCS, and Logic Pro for Intel only. Once that happened I started making plans to move from my trusty dual G5 to a new iMac.
I don't see how it could be slow, what CPU/GPU are you using? So far, on a Core i7 iMac (4GB RAM), Aperture has been positively snappy. Everything is very quick.
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