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is a vinyl record another term for a mp3? if so "yes."
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I download all of my music, but buy vinyl now instead of cds to listen to in the house. I mostly have older albums off of ebay and from half price books, but I've noticed lately that a lot of bands are releasing their new albums on vinyl.
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Funny you should ask:
I'm on a Mission Fom God.
Having an MP3 of the Blues Brothers and having bought the actual physical LP album when it was released and passing the cover around while listening and laughing to it with a bunch of friends is NOT the same thing. BTW, if you still have your album-sized Rolling Stones rolling paper, you are the Rock of Gibralter to me. I would guess just buying it on Ebay as a pure collectable and only playing it maybe once or twice by yourself is not the same thing.
I know records have scrathces, but MP3 are VERY annoying when you download a bad one that goes BLUEEEP loudly in your headset.
You may not realize it but MANY of the mp3s you hear are being made from vinyl records. To me up to a point of being unlistenable, scratches to me become a curtain of time, a proof of how much I love that particular song. I love MP3s of wax cylinder recordings such as Meet Me In Luna Lena 1905. Now that is agood use of digital technology: preservation.
Analog photography has a Zen to it. It is different because you don't have the instant feedback and the multi-capture almost movie speed
feature now available to "guarantee" you a good picture that you may have otherwise missed. Tsk, tsk... Digital camera? Yes, I have one, but planning 8 shots with a 120 roll film bellows camera is for certain NOT the same thing. Is it better, or more importantly more rewarding? Well that's why you are here: To find out.
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Ah yes, the parallel exists with me.
x aa
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say it so; old vinyls yes, must have. but new recordings on vinyl for the doubled price? they must have to have kind of specials. like jack johnson with mp3 download included.
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I still listen to vinyls. Nothing like Jethro Tull's 'Thick as a Brick' drifting out of a couple of Wharfedales heheh.
Dual Turntable with a Rotel Quadraphonic Amp running into 2 Wharfedales. Awesomeness.
CD's rock too though. =]
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Vintage Emulsion edited this topic 46 months ago.
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new lp
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I've returned to film photography in the last 18 months, and shock horror, I've just last week listened to the first LP in probably 15 years... It was a bit of a shock to my ears (a good one) as with spending 15 years getting used to the sound of digital recordings, it sounded way different to me than I remember. Much much nicer sound, I can't believe I went away for so long!!!
Can anyone recommend a decent quality but not too expensive turntable to replace my piece of 80's crap?? Say $300-$500 or thereabout??
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chris ( in awe of analogue ) edited this topic 46 months ago.
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I also wear clogs.
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Chris: Check out the Rega Planar 3. You can find really good ones (they usually are) second hand, which gives you extremely good bang for the buck. If the pickup is good that is :)
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Thanks, will do!
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Hobgrumble [deleted] says:
Good things never age.
Film.
Vinyl.
Books.
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I like using old cameras and then scan the negatives and put them on flickr. I also like old recordings - 1950s radio shows, 1930s Jazz, Rakhmaninov playing the piano, Maria Callas singing, or long forgotten music hall stars who died before the First world War- which I listen to in MP3 format. I used to have one of those clockwork gramophone thingies, but honestly it was too much trouble. Digital technology has a lot to offer - it can rescue mechanical technology from near obsolescence.
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I own no vinyls. I personally don't think CD is such a bad format for music.
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yeah, I love my 45s
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I hate vinyl.
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I like vinyl instead of CDs... but what I really like is using my Casio calculator to surf the web, instead of a computer :)
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the majority of my music is .mp3, but i also have a record player and a record collection. i occasionally listen to it, but i'm more about collecting vinyl for the large album artwork and feeling of support for the band.
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I think this thread is absolutely hilarious. I'm both a musician and a photographer and I can't believe that this topic is such a hotly debated subject. As for me..... It doesn't matter much what the medium is that delivers music. Although, I'll say this, I think CD players are a lot like digital cameras. You have to replace them every year because they're junk and stop working with no apparent reason. With digital cameras they're outdated in about a year.
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Aar☆n [deleted] says:
I never owned a record, but I do yes,
This is a little OT, but why do you guys call it analog photography?
Light is a waveform so ALL photography is analog,
Wouldnt chemical photography be more apt for film users?
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- Lanny [deleted] says:
I have always hated vinyl...
- the popping, the hiss
- the delicate and ultra fine performance needle$
-dust and cleaning
-the storage and transportation
I totally love my iPOD, I can carry ALL of my music with me with ease. Digital music is one of the best inventions for recreation in my opinion
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yellow_peacocks [deleted] says:
I LOVE records. No matter what anybody says, I know that vinyl sounds better than anything else. Nothing beats listening to a record. Maintaining and changing records reminds you that you're listening to music and that it's not just background noise.
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Nicely said yellow.
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Vinyl rules.
I also backup all my images on tape drives.
Kidding.
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I still listen to radio, but for recorded music I've got iTunes and my trusty (5 year old) iPod.
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Even though I have my ipod with me all day, I still enjoy coming home and listening to a record or two.
I guess its similar to film, I like shooting film, but I still use a digital P&S from time to time.
I dont really know which one I prefer, but there's room in my heart for both.
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i'm going with the vinyl crew. i've got tons and still love them each and every one. However, I will admit laziness in the past few years and the overpricing of vinyl here in Austin has seen me listening to and buying more (used) cds.
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I like vinyl recordings, if what's recorded on the vinyl is something I like.
Come to think of it, I feel the same way about CDs...
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For people "hating" vinyl and "loving" their iPods - get real. Do you honestly think you're getting anywhere close to good quality sound?
Yes, it's easy and convenient and I like that to, on the road, but you're missing out on some serious music listening, that is, of course, if serious music listening is something for you.
It's like saying "I hate quality, but I love convenience".
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I do, and want the summer to arrive for a week in our mountainside house. With nice landscapes and... the vynil records.
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I do, not lately because I dont have my turntable anymore, however Im still looking for a nice turntable to connect to my amplifier.
Even some years ago, I read, googled and learn about how to "clean" the scratches and noises of the vinyl, this, to preserve the sound and save it. Regards!
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yes
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Hell yeah I dig vinyl, you can go to Amoeba here in LA and find some true gems for like two bucks.
Can't beat that, and yes I would say that there is a correlation between film and vinyl, they are both never going to go out of style, both are way too damn cool!
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Don't call me an analog photographer and I won't call you an imitation photographer. Are digital photographers people who were once into the disco fad ?
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I love the sound of vinyl but my photography hobby is taking too much of my finances to invest in LPs, so usually I'll just get CDs and go for live concerts, which is pretty rare here in Singapore though we had Mogwai come over just last week!
I do have a friend is a very big fan of vinyl recordings AND film photography though!
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Johnny ©ontax [deleted] says:
Oui!
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I love my Bamboo Fly Rods too.
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haha oh yes. 1 and 0's are just not good enough for me when it coems to my music and pictures. i cant stand digital when its something personal like that. for the record: hand written letters are better than emails any day.
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you mean there is something other than vinyl recordings oh yeah i have my 8 track tape player too
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what else than vinyl? did i miss something???
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Yep!
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For sure!
I have some LPs 33rpm, which I like to play it and the digitalize it to listen in the car. :)
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I'm a fan of vinyl...records and ladies wearing it. ;-) I love the sound.
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The most interesting fact in this question is how many guys like to answer it. So I will longen the queue with mine:
I think there is definetely a connection but of course not 1:1. I was really glad about the new invention when I bought my first CD player in 1987 (4 years after it had been invented). I got rid of the scratches which I hated. Now I love them, giving me this good old feeling of the old days.
I don't use neither CD's nor vinyls very often - Im using an Ipod together with a 1957 valve radio: Sounds great !!
If you have an Ipod with 80 GB you can store most of your stuff in WAV quality there and have the 'Shuffle' function. I can't imagine any better - for the moment.
Now have to go out to take some pictures ...
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I guess there could be a sort of nostalgic connection between using film and listening to vinyl. However, treat each medium seperately. I have always used film and Vinyl and cassette was the music medium available when I bought my first music. I am mostly interested in music that is on available in vinyl anyway, so I had to get a record player. There another connection comes, because I choose old retro hi-fi just as I choose old analogue mechanical cameras. I don't have a huge vinyl collection, maybe about 150 LPs and about 30 45's. My iPod died and my CDs are all stored digitally, Its handy to be digital, but a nice experience to hear Bill Evans on LP while sorting through my negatives.
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davidsevern [deleted] says:
If I really like a particular album from a favourite band, I will buy it on Vinyl, that way it seems more special. I have all my favourites on vinyl!
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I do also!
I guess there a connextion with everything that's analog, vintage or not-so-perfect-in-their-king-of-way that makes this stuff much more real/unique.
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all about vinyl, the feel. the sound, the artwork. Its all good.
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Waiting for my new Rega P3 24!
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But does your record player fit in your darkroom? ;)
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I was playing around with turntablism (the art of making music from turntables) long before interest for Photography came around!
I like vinyl a lot.. and analog photography. SO yes in your theory, for me at least.
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Totally love vinyl!
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Yes, vinyl is superb. Vinyl vs CD is like comparing b&w film to dslr b&w ...
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flickrgrit edited this topic 37 months ago.
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Yes sir! Rega P3, Cyrus amp and ATC speakers. I also agree with flickrgrit's analogy (pun intended) on vinyl vs cd.
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It's vinyl for me. I even have an 8 track in my 73 Ford pickup.
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the parallel between cameras and music is very apparent to me.
i use analog when i can, it looks and sounds better.
but most of the time i find myself going digital, it's just more convenient.
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i do...
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I do ! oh we are a lot to love analog things
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My two true loves...analog photos and vinyls. Somebody described me once as retrolust!!! What about the first model of Alfa Romeo "Spider" ? It is exactly the same feeling. Do you need the gearbox in order to feel the road, or the automatism serves you right? Not only do i use films, but also my camera is an amazing 39 years old "antique" (Canon FT 1970) and i feel fine!
Well yes, i am very proud about my vinyl collection, i do listen to them when i am cool and i keep on collecting LP's wherever i find some.
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Hm. nicolai_g kept arguing that vinyl listeners aren't getting all of the music, but one could say the same for analog photography. I could come on here and proclaim that only HDR photography has any true merit because without it, you simply aren't getting a full range of dynamic values. But the truth is that I absolutely hate most HDR photos. I like photography because of its ability to alter reality in subtle ways, so I would never spend countless hours with expensive digital equipment trying to create the most perfect and lifelike images. One of my favorite things about analog photography is the existence of film artifacts: grain, light leaks, and other things that just don't happen with more "accurate" digital photos. The same could be said for vinyl lovers. Analog music has its merit in that it isn't perfect. It's just a matter of taste, really.
... and yes, I do also have a record player. For me, it's all about quirky thrift store jams from Latin pianos to Russian army chants... try finding that on CD or mp3!
I still mourn my parents' giving away my 1975 Fisher Price portable turntable from when I was wee (thrifted then, no doubt).
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I love vinyl records. I collect LPs. :)
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Do you like vintage cars, furniture, clothes, and the whole bit?
I like vinyl, though have nothing to play it. I had a grandparent's old record player growing up and liked those. It had standard records, AM, and maybe FM and tape cassette. I can't remember. I still have a CD/tape/radio player now. I haven't listened to a tape in years.. because I don't have any. I like film photography and am trying to learn more about it, too. I like antique furniture, historic houses, and antique cars. I also like very modern furniture and architecture and emerging tech/science.
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There's your answer ^_^
I love vinyls, collect them and play them nearly everyday (which makes my parents chuckles since even they are all into CDs nowadays)
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Oh! I do!
I love my old victrola! :)
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Some of you might not be aware that most guitar players still prefer tube amplifiers to transistor amps. Several companies offer amp-modeling technology with which they attempt to digitally replicate the sound and "feel" of tube amplifiers, but guitar players have been extremely resistant to the point where one of these companies recently came out with a hybrid. The amplifier section is tube-powered analogue and the tone control and special effects paths are digital. An interesting property of tube amplifiers that has so far been difficult to model is their "responsiveness". You can set them so that when you play softly they're clean, but when you play harder they smoothly transition into distortion. There are also interactions between the pre-amp section and the power amp section that are difficult to model. As far as I know, the only source (maybe just the best?) for these tubes is Russia.
Somewhat related... many recording engineers swear by tube pre-amps for their microphones even though digital pre-amps have more options and often boast better specs. Tube pre-amps "color" the sound and many vocal artists and recording engineers prefer that sound to the totally transparent "perfect" sound of the digital pre-amps.
Also, I recently read an interesting thing about the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album. Some of them were printed with an "inside track" after the very last song. After an inaudible (except to dogs) tone, there's a bunch of backwards talking and laughing and such. That track loops back on itself and will play forever if you let it. That's something that's literally impossible with CDs. So no CD, no matter how well it's been remastered, will ever be able to perfectly replicate this particular artistic statement.
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Berin Loritsch [deleted] says:
Gimel Vav, you won't be surprised to find out that there are a number of hybrid pre-amps out there with tube amplification as the first stage and digital as the output.
There's generally two types of tube amplifiers, with different quality results. There's the original high quality/high voltage amplifier that has a cleaner, but louder output. Then there's the much more common "starved tube" design that uses lower voltage (about 12V) to exagerate the tube qualities. The cheaper hybrids use the latter approach, but many people are happy with it.
True audiophiles never stray from vinyl and high voltage tube amplifiers. Many preferring the membrane speakers that borrow the same principles as condenser microphones (the highest quality mics) to move air.
So I guess us film guys are photophiles?!
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Derek Von Eville (so evil it's pronounced Eve-EL) [deleted] says:
I have a record player in my garage/darkroom and listen to vinyl when I'm working sometimes, but I don't like to handle my records if I've been handling chemicals, so I normally only have it going while I'm setting up and then I switch on public radio while I'm printing (I hate commercials on the radio).
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@Berlin Loritsch: Here's what Line 6 says about their Spider Valve amp co-designed by Bogner:
Tell me about the selection and layout of the tubes?
The Line 6 modeler feeds a pair of 12AX7 preamp tubes. The first tube is set up as a cascading gain stage, with each stage contributing the harmonic complexity vintage amp players love. That feeds the master volume which hits the next 12AX7 configured as a phase splitter which is followed by Sovtek 5881WXT/6L6. There’s 2 6L6’s for 40 watts of class AB power in the combos and 4 6L6’s for 100 watts of class AB power in the head.
So the preamp and power amp tubes make for a complete tube amp as opposed to a “hybrid” amp that would use solid state for most of the amplification?
Exactly. This isn’t a hybrid that just uses a little 12AX7 preamp tube on the front end, or as part of a solid state power amp. It’s a full on tube amp – which gives you the complete tube amp experience, from the rich harmonics, to the feel and responsiveness of the power tubes.
I'm not a tube amp expert. I think you know way more about it than I do, but I do know that this thing kicks some serious ass.
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Derek Von Eville (so evil it's pronounced Eve-EL) [deleted] says:
I think old things have a heart and soul. An old guitar, an old camera, an old car or motorcycle. Listening to a record on vinyl is a more satisfying experience for me, just like looking at prints is more satisfying then looking at pics on a monitor. There is something to it though, it's not simple nostaliga (I'm old enough to remember when record stores sold Records). I hate casette tapes and poloraids and those were a big part of my youth.
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liamdavenportphotography [deleted] says:
Ah, yes. I do prefer vinyl, by a long way, to CD, mp3, etc. But, here is another one for you.... I also use an old (1920s) typewriter to write letters to family and friends.
I suspect that may be taking things too far, but a type-written letter does look rather nice (and my handwriting is terrible).
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Berin Loritsch [deleted] says:
The important thing to realize with tubes, vinyl, and chemical based photography vs. transisters, CDs, and digital photography is that the latter always have better specs. A tube amplifier only has a damping power of 8 (the ability to control speaker ringing) while a transister amplifier exceeds a damping factor of 200--which suggests a truer playback. Problem is the tube amplifier still sounds so much better to most people.
It just means we aren't ruled by specs. I see that as a good thing.
Gimel Vav, Most tube circuitry is is pretty simple. Cascading gain simply means that you have one amplification stage followed by another. Your 12AX7 tubes are the most common preamp tubes, with a rated operating voltage of about 127VDC. Your 5881WXT and 6L6 tubes are power amp tubes with a rated operating voltage of around 400VDC. The transformer at the end that converts your 400VAC high impedence signal down to a low impedence/high current signal needed for speakers is what keeps the output signal from killing you.
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For serious listening, for me it's very much a question of how something was mastered, whether the waveform was bricked and whatnot.
That having been said, I have an unhealthy attachment to the sound of 2 track analog audio cassettes, because I grew up recording anything and everything on my tape recorder when I was a kid, and so the sounds of the medium, tape hiss, analog ceiling distortion, warble and such. It's strange I'm sure, but it's part of what makes me me.
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I like the physically of Vinyl, and film and... a lot of things.
Sound is a personal decision, though with the loudness wars a lot of CDs have become unlistenable, Vinyl on the other hand does sound better at times because of it these days.
As for MP3s? Most of my music is in Lossless format. Why would I want to downgrade?
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I listen to records on vinyl. I think it sounds better and there is something nice about holding the record in your hand when buy it vs. downloading something off itunes. I also like getting the large album artwork.
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Hi I'm nikkormaten and I'm an addict...
I prefer vinyl sound wise but my family is not that happy with all the space it takes. And the space all the photo stuff takes either and not to mention all instruments etc...
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i kind of like vinyl too but only know it from my childhood (children's stuff like tales and nursery rhymes). now turn tables are really expensive and i don't have anything to put on them either (thanks mom for throwing everything away, just like you did with the slide projecter, too) i fancy this kind of "background noise" when you put the needle on and in between tracks.
as of now, i don't even have speakers or the like. i can only listen to music via notebook but have to say that the speakers (at least mine) there are actually ok-ish. especially when compared to small or older cd-players. and i don't even have space here for CDs. (so have store at my parent's place).
when i have a job i can reconsider the question of equipment ;)
but then i'll have my own darkroom, first.
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Nadine Erdmann [feels inspired again] edited this topic 35 months ago.
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I love film but collect music on CD's and mp3s. I do love vinyl but just don't have the space. I have a bunch of photos in shoeboxes though. Living in Japan it's hard to be into either music or photography...you have to allow it to take over your personal space.
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Yes, I love vinyl, but only in my apartment/studio and when enough peace is around to give it all the attention. I do some record cover photography and have noticed that lately more and more music is also done on 33rpm LP`s It`s a definite trend ! The audio guys say the sound is richer and more mellow. Most productions go thru an analog phaze to give the sound better "form". For my car:Of couse CD:s. Luckily you can nowdays transfer your Vinyl to CD:s quite easy.
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I love my 45s and 33s. I've transferred many to mp3 and I just love the hiss that said mp3s tend to start with now!!!!
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33rpm, 45rpm, 78rpm, Monk, Bird, Diz, Duke, three turntables, Blues, Jazz, Gospel, Bluegrass, ect. ect. ect.....yes I still use vinyl.
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Yes, yes, yes! :)
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I had never heard music from a vinyl record (maybe because im 17 years old (-; ). but i dont have a problem listening to mp3's...
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I still have quite a bit of LPs from when I was a teen, but more than vinyl I like tubes. If you have never listened to music through a decent tube amp, do yourself a favour and get/borrow one. :)
If you have basic DIY skills there are quite a few very affordable projects on HeadFi or diyaudio.
Analog music = tubes
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ludoo edited this topic 34 months ago.
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i do, definitely.
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I do.
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i love my vinyl - i went to melbourne 2 weeks ago and spent $200 on my favorite new stuff :(
BUT - as much as i love records, i have no issues with cd/mp3/whatever.
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how about label embossers?
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Wish to hear Pink Flyod's Brick On The Wall series from the vinyl. It's a loooong time since l last heard that.
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I often skip over vinyl to honest, pure SHELLAC!!!! Yes, 78's. The 45 rpm format was a purely STUPID idea, promoted by RCA in 1949. All the rock: Beatles to Michael Jackson would've sounded better on 78's -- even vinyl 78's, which were the last ones to be made. Better sound, more dynamics, and far better durability. Not to mention no need to get an insert for that stupid hole!! And you'd get a much bigger & better cover picture.
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by me
www.lomography.com/homes/yadda-yadda-yadda/photos/5915432
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My beloved Planar 9 sounds better than any CD player..Vinyl like film just keep getting better...
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House DJ. Dormant now, but have around 3000 pieces of vinyl.
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Absolutely. you cannot get the same music any other way, though I'd like to see someone try to strap a turntable to their arm and go jogging with it.
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I do but it has to be played on a High End turntable. I do like Cd's when I play them through my high end California Audio Labs Tube Analog Converter( has two 12AX7 tubes that help give ti the warmth that analog records produce)
Comet turntable w/ Sumiko Blue Point Special cartridge:
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Yes of course I do, only the best way to listen to music, makes you listen
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I swing both ways - analog(ue) and digital. Therefore, no surprise that I have a really good Naim CD system and I'm planning to purchase a Linn LP12 Sondek next year. For me, it's not a case of "either or" I see no problem in having best of both worlds....
Posted 32 months ago.
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I've been wondering about this one myself. I'm into Vinyl big time, I have a lot of CD's, but have even more LP's. For that matter I have more 78's than CD's. I mainly listen to either MP3's, or LP's. Sadly the MP3's tend to get listened to more than the LP's now that we have our own house. Hmmm, maybe it's time I run speakers into my office!
I find it interesting that as CD's have started to decline in popularity, LP's have increased.
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Jimpanzee [deleted] says:
I grew up with vinyl and I think my family had a Sears record player -- with a speaker on each side of the unit, but still was mono. As a teenager, I discovered Hi-Fi -- at least in theory as I could never afford the best stuff. But I read the books and magazines. What the real audiophiles did back then was record their vinyl records onto hi-fi reel-to-reel tape decks. This is because each time you play a record you wear it out a little, even with the best turntables and pick-ups. Cassette decks never had good enough frequency response -- and had other defects.
At any rate, if you like the sound of vinyl, you are enjoying something that has been added to the true sound, not the pure sound itself -- from the stylus to the pick-up to the pre-amp to the amp (and maybe you like tube amps if you are a real vintage enthusiast) to the speaker system. And I wouldn't fault anyone for enjoying this sound -- and the whole aesthetic experience of handling the records, looking at the dust jackets, placing the stylus into the grooves, etc.
I'm not sure that enjoying vinyl is the same as enjoying film, though. A 120 negative can still pick up more detail than a digital image from the best cameras (maybe I'm wrong about that by now). There are effects from film that you can't get from digital. Film is still the best for low-light photography, or so I have heard.
But photography has never been about fidelity to reality. The human visual experience can't really be reproduced. The human aural experience can be much more faithfully reproduced -- and I can't really tell you why, physiologically. The ears have a simpler anatomical apparatus, maybe. At any rate, photography has always been about presenting an artistic rendition of the human visual experience, whereas audio technology has been reproducing something that is already an artistic rendition.
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Jimpanzee edited this topic 30 months ago.
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@ Jim A. Parks -
If you have good equipment and keep your records clean, there is no "sound of vinyl." Sure the signal passes through various circuits before it reaches the speakers, but if you eliminate the static, pops, and motor noise, is it really any different than the image from a slide being lit by a lamp, passing though several lenses and ending up enlarged on a cloth screen?
By the way, direct to disc vinyl recordings are still some of the highest quality recordings around, and even standard vinyl recordings that have been kept in good condition can have better sound reproduction than digital techniques. And once again, with the right equipment, the wear on the record is virtually negligible. Plus, unless you are recording from 16 2/3 rpm to 3 3/4 ips (half speed mastering) I can't imagine the sound being very good...
Originally posted 30 months ago.
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obi1kenobi1 edited this topic 30 months ago.
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