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Reverse Generate Lightroom Presets from Flickr Photos

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Mike Wiacek  Pro User  says:

Hey all, I just launched a new personal project.

lrpreset.appspot.com

Basically, if a Flickr photo was edited using Adobe Camera Raw and/or Lightroom, and the metadata wasn't stripped, my little tool will parse the photo's EXIF data and generate a Lightroom Preset for it. Go ahead, give it a try, let me know what you think! It works pretty dam well, no signup, or other info required, it's completely free to use. Enjoy!

..mike
Originally posted at 4:31PM, 17 May 2009 PDT (permalink)
Purple Umbrella Photos (a group admin) edited this topic 37 months ago.

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r reeve  Pro User  says:

Tried the copy and paste the URL link on a couple of my own photos and it didn't work.
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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unfoo says:

Pretty dang cool! Raises some ethics/etiquette issues, though... Are a photographer's EXIF settings, which reveal elements of their style and processing, copyrighted along with the image itself?
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Mike Wiacek  Pro User  says:

So I checked with a lawyer on this to make sure it would be on the up and up. They pointed me to: www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html.

A photo has copyright protection, but in most circumstances a list of ingredients, a formula, etc do not have protection. So taking EXIF data that says Clarity +25, Vibrance -30, Fill Light +10, is a simple list/recipe and not copyrightable. However, applying it to a photo, would then give the photo protection, but the steps to get there are still not protected.
Originally posted 37 months ago. (permalink)
Mike Wiacek edited this topic 37 months ago.

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Godfrey DiGiorgi is a group administrator Godfrey DiGiorgi  Pro User  says:

That's a cool little utility, but I do wonder just how useful it is. A set of processing parameters can't just be applied willy nilly to a bunch of photographs to get the same results.

I normally strip the processing metadata on exports for clients and the web anyway. I figure it's excess information unnecessary for their needs. I make sure my IPTC data is in my exported photos as that data IS important to their needs.
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Anton Chia says:

Great work! Errh but if someone have some presets that gives their photo unique look, they will not like another persons duplicating that look. I guess the preset sellers would be concerned too. Hahah.
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Mike Wiacek  Pro User  says:

Yes as Godfrey says, this doesn't do anything special, just puts EXIF into a lrtemplate format. So if you strip your metadata, it's not gonna work.
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Ryan Katsanes Photography  Pro User  says:

I bet most of them were Matt Kloskowski's presets to begin with. ;)
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Anton Chia says:

Hahahah Katsanes!
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Ryan Katsanes Photography  Pro User  says:

Well, it's an impressive project that's for sure. Interesting idea and work Mike!
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

C Tibbs Photography [deleted] says:

Very slick, works like a charm. tried on a few of my own that I used presets and then did the photo again using the extracted one and worked perfectly.
Mike you have covered all the bases, there is not ethical or copyright issues here. Keep up the great work.
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Jonathan Ryan says:

Very cool indeed :)

Can't get the bookmarklet thing to work in FF on a Mac though :(
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Jonathan Ryan says:

Hmmmmmmmm....have you thought of creating an inverse preset? Then you could see what the picture looked like when it came out of camera..... :)
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Amit (Sydney)  Pro User  says:

Absolutely brilliant work :)
Very handy to study how people process their photos.
Thanks for sharing Mike
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Mike Wiacek  Pro User  says:

@Jonathan Ryan I'm using FF on a Mac right now. What happens when you try and use it?
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Jonathan Ryan says:

Mike Wiacek wrote

@Jonathan Ryan I'm using FF on a Mac right now. What happens when you try and use it?


Ah fixed it! I wasn't actually, err, displaying my, err bookmarks bar :)) Just the Google bookmarks bar and 1Password. Works like a charm now.
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Robert W Peabody III  Pro User  says:

doesn't work....Firefox no blocker
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Ryan Smedstad  Pro User  says:

Brilliant!
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Harry Limey is a group administrator Harry Limey  Pro User  says:

Lumiere, works for me with Firefox, but it has to be an image that has been through Lightroom and has the exif details in tact, (I tried a few in our pool which it worked on, but i can't use my own as I have most metadata removed on export!!)
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Robert W Peabody III  Pro User  says:

Harry -

If you would, try one of mine:
e.g. East Greenwich Cove
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Harry Limey is a group administrator Harry Limey  Pro User  says:

I tried it but no good!
I note that there is no link to a larger image and these options....
"# Taken in xxxxx, SE (map) # Taken with a Canon EOS 5D Mark II. More properties"
....are not available for your image, whereas they are for the images which the retrieve presets device works on?
Maybe that is where the limitation applies!
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Robert W Peabody III  Pro User  says:

Most of my images are scans, but that one is from my camera.

///link to a larger image\\\\

Not sure what you mean...
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Mike Wiacek  Pro User  says:

Lumiere, it's not gonna work on East Greenwich Cove as you don't allow flickr to share EXIF data. Notice on the right hand side of www.flickr.com/photos/mjwiacek/3537530508/in/set-72157618... you see the text: "Taken with a Canon EOS 5D Mark II. More properties"

If you strip your metadata, or don't publicly share your EXIF data, the tool can't see the settings required to generate the preset.

Best,

..mike
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Robert W Peabody III  Pro User  says:

I guess I'm being unintentionally cheap with my data....
thnxs
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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Robert W Peabody III  Pro User  says:

Mike-

www.flickr.com/photos/lukaskracic/2265988875/meta/


The one above lists the properties:
Taken with a Canon EOS 400D Digital.
More properties

When I use the preset link it still doesn’t work.

When I used it on your link it opened a note pad listing all the info but no preset – unless that was it?
Posted 37 months ago. (permalink)

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ault says:

Interesting and possibly useful.

Mike: In the interest of posterity, can you correct the typo in the thread title to help with searches?

Lumiere - I notice you used photoshop on that after LR; I think that may strip out the LR data.
Originally posted 37 months ago. (permalink)
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