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gambling dice 9:14am, 25 August 2010
Hi Guys, following a couple of discussions with Norman I thought bI would join the site and post some pictures of my A24 for interest. Sail number 132 she is currently at Rudders boatyard Burton. I had hoped to sail her to Scotland this month but unfortunately, time, weather and teething problems all conspired against me. I bought the boat over the phone !! She has been lying for sometime -- I guess around 3-4 years and I read with interest some of your posts regarding deck sag, engines etc. she came with a 5hp honda which decided to terminate its existence as soon as it was installed. Part of the main block just fell off! So a hasty swap for a tender was organised and an old 4hp mariner sailmate installed. I did manage a very wet daysail up to Dale roads and was surprised how "tippy" the boat was and she didn't point as high as I had expected - perhaps due to shroud position. I also found that when running the engine in forward the outboard plug lifted at the front -- is this normal? Now faced with a possible road transport to my preferred sailing grounds of the west coast of scotland the future of the boat is in the balance. However I can see the appeal of these boats in the meantime any advice is most welcome.
pjbharrison 8 years ago
Hi Peter
Welcome to the group. I had a look at your photos and she looks like a sound boat that was mainly just in need of a cleanup. I'm sure this took a lot of time, effort and elbow grease, but she looks good now.
I'm sure you'll get a lot of excellent advice on sailing her and with any problems you encounter from the group.
The A24 is a bit more "tippy" than more recent designs with wider beams but I find this adds to the excitement of sailing her! I've had the toe rail in the water a few times but no "knock downs".
Later boats had the shrouds further inboard, as mentioned in comments about Norman's boat "Klipspringer". I think Ron "Chille Pepper" or "Goskar" had the shrouds repositioned so he may be able to advise on this.

Hope you enjoy sailing her

Super Snoopy 050 8 years ago
Ah Rudders Boatyard in Burton. That's where I bought Super Snoopy two years ago. Then we had gales, wind and I managed to get her around to Newport 6 weeks later. Sounds familiar? Indeed it hardly sems that it's stopped raining since. Perhaps you will break the Burton jinx. When Snoopy had an outboard, the outboard plug lifted when going ahead more than tickover. There are small bolts that are supposed to stop that happening but Snoopy's plug had no holes for the bolts to sit in - so we installed an inboard instead.
pjbharrison 8 years ago
I attached some pieces of hardwood in the top inside walls of the plug and another across the front on the outside. These stiffened the plug and it doesn't move at all in any direction.
gambling dice 8 years ago
Thanks for these tips regarding the outboard, no holes either and sailing guys, yes good old rudders boatyard.... stuck there for a week. they seem like a good team. The boat has cleaned up fairly well, thanks for the encouraging comments, I have put the boat up for sale at this time until I can decide whether to bite the bullet and spend, spend, spend !!
I notice the religious chap is doing rather better with his sail round the UK.
gambling dice 8 years ago
Wow, I have just seen the pictures of the engine replacement on snoopy. that was quite an achievement, well done.
Mike A1 8 years ago
Hello Peter,

My A24 has a U-bolt fitted to the cockpit floor a couple of inches in front of the outboard well. It may be intended as a place for the helmsman to clip a lifeline, but I use it to tie down the front of the engine to stop it lifting. A bit easier than installing an inboard :)

They are "tippy" boats and are quite happy sailing with the lee rail in the water but this is usually a sign that it's time to reef. Also, when sailing at that angle a gust can quite easily put the cockpit sides underwater. This often leads to wet feet and bum, and an unhappy crew. I find the best solution is to wear the right gear, and sail singlehanded.

busy home [deleted] 8 years ago
I think your doing something wrong if you say your dissapointed with the achilles performance! Here in busy Falmouth not much below 30ft
can catch us,.. A Contessa26 sailed well is a good match and of course modern light weight racers ,,
I note your cars are out board ,, i brought Goskars inside the lifelines
(easy job) Chilles and Goskars shrouds are still in original positions ..
(the lower shrouds are to long when brought inwards ,,I tried!)
Removeing the out board and putting the sailing plug in transforms sailing performance,, did you try this?
We have never had any problems with outboards jumping out!?
Goskar has a full depth plug Chille a small one .. I sometimes put a large rubber ball behind the engine to help stop twist/thrust when using higher revs.. Hope this helps
rothwell_neil Posted 8 years ago. Edited by rothwell_neil (member) 8 years ago
Can I just add my twopenceworth to this. I have just come back from three days sailing in the Solway in 5-7 conditions. Yes the 24 is tippy when you move about as it is narrow but it is also very stiff at 50% balast ratio so when it starts to lean doesn't go too far and keeping the lee rail under is hard, much better to reef by that point. I was also sailing in the Solway and the conditions were pretty knarly at times as long fetch with shallow water. The 24 is great in a blow, deals with big waves happily as it is narrow and is a great sea boat. In the top of a 5 gusting 6 with 2 reefs in the main and genny we went to windward at 4-4.5 knots. When it got up to a 7 reefed the genny some more and it was balanced. Yes it was wet (very wet!) but thats what waterproofs are for, also get a spray hood as these make life at sea and in port pleasant. Then today we high tailed it back to Maryport as there was a warning of an 8. Left Isle of Whithorn with 25kn gusting to 30+ with 2 reefs in both main and genny. As we were leaving the 9am news was starting on the radio, we covered the 31.5kn on a rumbustuous broad reach and crossed the entrance to Maryport exactly 4.5 hours with the wind steady all the way. Big waves and gusty conditions but the 24 just makes you feel very secure and surfing is a blast as it is controllable. We touched in excess of 10 knots sog surfing and even though the tide was giving us a lift the 31.5 knots in 4.5 hours works out at an average passage speed of 7 knots. Not many 24 feet boats could do that in rough weather and yet not scare you.

I have spent many years sailing round the west coast of scotland including most of the islands. I really can't think of a better 24ft boat to sail round there as there can't be many better sea boats at that size. Now as for space, that is different but two (6ft and 6ft 3") of us had a very happy time including cooking some good food. Don't need much space to drink Bluebird Bitter and red wine. I am heading off to the western isles next year and really can't think of a better suited boat. Make a plug to fair in the outboard and tie it down.

Probably best to set off in a blow to see just how good these boats are. Not in the mould of a french caravan more in the old Contessa 32 design department.
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