pjbharrison 1:40pm, 24 May 2010
Just finishing restoring a British Seagull outboard engine for a tender.
It's a 1957 40 minus. Have it running great in a barrel.
Anyone else ever use one of these engines?
Is anyone still using one?
busy home [deleted] 8 years ago
I used to, A 40 - is a rare one. noisey oily 25to 1 hot to handle
no wonder the japs took over,,
blueachilles 8 years ago
I have a 40 plus short shaft mouldering in the garage. Last time I tried it, about five years ago, it ran, but there is a problem with a blocked fuel line because it'll only run with a float chamber full of fuel before it cuts out again.

Free to a good home. Could deliver to the October do - or Loe Beach.....

But I agree with Ron; heavy, noisy, smelly.....
Scott and Portia1386 8 years ago
Love em or hate em they seem to go on for ever. I have seen them fully immersed and with a bit of work run as normal. If you need to take the head off just anneal the copper gasket on the cooker –good as new. I have a long shaft forty plus I agree they are noisy and a bit smelly but they go on and on mine is 1960’s vintage and is our regular out board for the tender to get out to Portia. Recently when we had problems with the Yam we used the seagull to move Portia’ around. I can pass on a couple of websites for spares that I have found useful if you want. Best of luck

Scott
busy home [deleted] 8 years ago
I take back all I said, I love them especially when delivered,
Mike A1 8 years ago
I've got four. A bit excessive but two were given to me so they don't really count. The only one I use at the moment is a 40 Featherweight which gets the tender to and from the mooring and it's usually reliable. I agree they are a bit noisy but they certainly have character.

My top tip is to mix the fuel in small amounts and top it up regularly as I find it easier to start with fresh petrol.

www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk is a good place to find information, spares and advice.
neptunesnephew Posted 8 years ago. Edited by neptunesnephew (member) 8 years ago
Ah! a 40+ and an Avon dinghy, the classic combination.

Those were the days! Tickling the carburettor, generating your own oil slick and making sure that you were pointing in the right direction before pulling the starting cord. Happy times.

I've got a dismantled 40+ in my shed that I hope to rebuild when I get a "round to-it".
Scott and Portia1386 8 years ago
Geoffrey the bit our seagull bolts onto is an Avon both weren’t made yesterday or the day before that. The Avon has tender to the _RK on the back and the seagull well what can I say but are still working its all in keeping
blueachilles 8 years ago
Ron, are you saying you want mine? We are down the w/e after the Bank Holiday, and also for the Loe Beach Regatta. Give me a call if you do want it.
rothwell_neil Posted 8 years ago. Edited by rothwell_neil (member) 8 years ago
I have a 40- short shaft and love it as a motor. The best thing about it is that there is nothing to go wrong and yes they will start after dropping in seawater after simply draining the carb and turning over a few times with the plug out! You can also get them to run on 40:1 with new jets and then they smoke less. So if I had to rely on a tender outboard for cruising the seagull would win every time. Having said that it takes a few pulls to start and you do need to tickle it every time. Just to prove that nostalgia isn't always practical the motor that I use as standard is an old 2hp evinrude as it is really light and small! It did once let me down when it threw the recoil spring when I was on a mooring and we had to get a lift in as wind and tide too strong to row against. Thing with the seagull is so long as you have a bit of rope it will start and the water pumps will pump treacle.

Won't be selling the seagull as it reminds me of messing about in boats as a kid, it was a refurb project and I like having it just like people are attracted to old cars but still keep a new one for commuting.
busy home [deleted] 8 years ago
Yes please Blue, ,, I will call>
pjbharrison Posted 8 years ago. Edited by pjbharrison (member) 8 years ago
I agree with Mike A!, the saving old seagulls site is great and John is most helpful with advice by email or phone. Have a look at his "Moggie" too.
He sells lots of spares at reasonable prices too.
Give me a shout if you need any bits as I have a spare "donor" engine.
I'm going to fit mine on a 40 year old wooden Optimist dinghy as a tender.
There are conversion kits available to allow the 10:1 models to run at 25:1 about £6
blueachilles 8 years ago
Ron,

All this enthusiasm for Seagulls has got to me, and I think I'll have a tinker with mine first to see if I can coax it back to life.

If its beyond me, I'll get back to you.

Rod
busy home [deleted] 8 years ago
Thats fine ,, no worrys,
Chilli going in Tuesday morning,at Rustler.
pjbharrison 8 years ago
Have any Seagulls been successfully resuscitated sine this topic was started?
Have mine running in a barrel. Hope to try it out this weekend as I'm still recovering from surgery to my hand and won't be able to sail to Isle of man this weekend. It's a Bank Hol here this w/e.
My first motorboat!
busy home [deleted] Posted 8 years ago. Edited by busy home (member) 8 years ago
They lace bread with carbide to blow up the seagulls at St ives. and shoot as many as possible, They are a danger to the emmetts ..
(swooping on ice creams and pastys )
I ve not heard of any being resusitated though.
pjbharrison 8 years ago
Used my seagull a good bit last season. Found it a bit underpowered but OK. Abandoned it in the back garden over the winter in all the snow, rain and -14 temperatures. I admit to feeling a bit guilty! I bought a new spark plug and found that the wrong one had been fitted last year! Cleaned the points and tried to start it with the same petrol that was left in it since last July, I think. It started on the 2nd pull. Seems much more powerful in the barrel with the new plug as it nearly drowned me when I opened the throttle.
rothwell_neil Posted 8 years ago. Edited by rothwell_neil (member) 8 years ago
Something special about going down wind in a dinghy with a seagull, ah those fumes. Mine had been abandoned for years, cleaned carb, scrapped off all the carbon off piston and head, new spark plug, amazed but ran fine without even having to clean water pump, which I did later.
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