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Cockpit drainage

Skykomish E29 3:04pm, 2 April 2008
This is just a thought that crossed my mind whilst cleaning my cockpit. With the outboard well we have first rate cockpit drainage, but can those with inboards tell me how the water drains from theirs? Is there a similar drainage system as ours with the plug in or do you have to rely on drainage tubes?
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
If the cockpit sole is higher than the water line allis ok. just tubes and seacocks, The contessa 26 sole is a inch or so low so has probs
odd in a classic sea boat.
The problem occours when big seas come on board and the drain holes are to small . I sailed across from peter port the night Drum capsized in a Bell sea mew . We bailed with a bucket for 10 hours
but still we were anckle deep in the cockpit in Salcome .
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NormanKlipspringer 11 years ago
There is a hole in the cockpit floor about 5cms diameter which connects to a tube which drains under the boat. Under certain circumstances water will come up this tube and flood the cockpit. Archimedes had a wooden slatted floor when I bought her, obviously with the intention to keep ones feet dry. I have removed this and just put up with the occasional wetting.
guillainevib 11 years ago
Anyone got any thoughts on putting a cowl, for want of a better word, under the outboard well? I really like the idea of the hole being a cockpit drain, but I don't like the idea of the drag caused if it is just open and half full of swirling water. Obviously I am talking of an arrangement for a long passage where I will not have an outboard with me. My idea so far is a simple rubber flap which lies flush with the bottom (attached inside the forward end of the well) but would be pushed down by a weight of water. This is entirely theoretical as I have yet to even sail my boat let alone experiment with bits of inner tube, but I would be very interested to hear anyone's thoughts.
Cheers,
Nicki
blueachilles 11 years ago
There should be a plug which fits in the hole, when the o/b is not in place. There have been a number of pics on here of a couple of designs.
guillainevib 11 years ago
Yes there is a plug, but it weighs a ton and sits right where weight is the last thing I want. Also it blocks the hole and I want to be able to utilise it as a major drain. I saw the pics and `I like the light weight one which I shall copy if my rubber flap or other idea fails.
Cheers,
Nicki
blueachilles 11 years ago
Ours has a drain down the middle, so drains as well as plugs.

Normally, it is hollow, so doesn't weigh as much as you indicate yours does. It does however fill with water, due to leaks on the top, which makes it very heavy. One day I will reinforce the top to try to ensure the leaks can be cured, but in the meantime I have installed a couple of drain plugs, on top and bottom.

We never sail without the outboard in place. Di is very petite and is not confident enough to cope without an engine if I was to go overboard or be otherwise unable to assist in emergency. However, on the only occasion we did sail with the plug in, it gave an extra half knot or so of speed.
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
Your plug is sodden ! They do not weigh much . It woulf be easy to put a 3in tube in the plug with a flap assembly under to smooth flow '
Sailing with the outboard in is like towing a drogue.
But I fully agree with Blues logic.
Blue ... Sundown is in at Loe Beach Ist boat in !
jturner2007 11 years ago
I always cruise with the outbard in place as I have no other obvious place to stowe it. As blue said, putting the plug in for racing makes a good half a knot.

I drilled a hole in the plug and put a samll bung in as it always fills with water after a days sailing.
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
If the foam is still in .. it absorbs the water and remains heavy.
Cut big holes in and remove the foam or take the sides off compleatly!!
See my old photos.... If Ive not deleted them?
guillainevib 11 years ago
The foam is all removed and there are holes drilled in the bottom of the plug. The previous owner's logic being that it could fill but also empty. Seems fair enough, but the idea of a grate at sole level the size of the entire well just strikes me as very handy when the cockpit has been filled with water. I won't be taking an engine for JC so there is no need to keep it fully operational engine wise. The sort of rubber I'm thinking about might come from a small conveyer belt and be about 7mm or so thick. Rigid enough to stay in place flush with the hull whilst underway, but bendy enough give under a weight of water. I like you 3 inch hole idea Ron.
Nicki
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
Why not stow it under the cockpit floor , in the normal space???
guillainevib 11 years ago
Too much weight and uses up space where I will need to put food. It's going to be a tight squash, especially as I'm going to fill the forward cabin and stern lockers with buoyancy.
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
You need to keep some of the bouyancy the plug gives.so cutting the sides to low wouldent work really ???
When we were in the sh..... t one important thing was being able to use the bilge pump from inside or out . The achilles pump is too far aft . Put one in the companion way area .
I also suffered hyperthermia. (the sea did not feel cold! ) at one piont my legs refused to move . Luckily I had a large bar of chocolate in my pocket which I ate and got me mobile again. Take some lengths of 2by2 wood and a saw and pads to shore up any impact damage (we had to cut up a spinny pole by torchlight) 4by4 hole in bow !
(ply boat) . Hope Im not putting you off .
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
Sorry I ment jturner!
rothwell_neil 11 years ago
Will post photos of my light weight plug to minimise storage rather than anything else, fits in the well to plug the hole with blue foam infill, all epoxy coated and fixed in place with turn buckles and walking stick rubber tips. Photos will hopefully help!
rothwell_neil 11 years ago
Have posted photos of my light weight plug prior to finishing with glass cloth on outside of the pink foam infill. Marine ply is already glassed in light weight cloth in these pictures.
Easy to make and took a fe parts of two nights, used two old turn buckles to fit it to inside of well, one end with fitting inside the walking stick end, the other end drilled and a carbon arrow shaft used to fit to other side. Just happen to have these!
Take out motor, push to bottom of well, finger tighten one end of the turn buckle to get it to fit, then tighten away to keep it in place. Have to install in the water but once in place doesn't let much else in, also a bit of sealing rubber round the outside edges where fits inside outer skin should make this virtually water tight, work on the principle that it still needs to drain. I don't mind the hole in the hull just don't like the drag on a long sail and would rather lift donkey out of the well to get to a place in time for the pub rather than start it up.
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