New Sail

santalars 9:49pm, 3 January 2008
Happy new year!

I've received my new sail today.
Against your recommendations I've ordered it from Hong Kong Sail Makers. I've ordered it directly in HK without the distributers in the UK.
Including custom fees and shipping costs it is € 520.
This includes evreything as two reefs insign, sail No., ...
As far as I can say at this stage the sail is of very good quality and made of high quality materials with best workmanship.
I was very pleased with my first inspection and I will let you know in April if my first impression will be confirmed by the performance.
All measures are exactly as I wanted.

Please find fotos in the pool.
rothwell_neil 11 years ago
Looks very nice. I have just received mine from crusader for a total of £456 for exactly the same spec so yours was definitely a good price. Will take some photos and report on sailing as soon as it warms up again.
sallybrown490 Posted 10 years ago. Edited by sallybrown490 (member) 10 years ago
I just got back an offer for my mainsail from a sailmaker in Switzerland for £1.365 two reefs, number and logo, thats a bit too much... I'll try it by crusaders and in Hongkong (is there a website in HK?), could you post your measures, to double check with mine, would be great
busy home [deleted] 10 years ago
Crusader has made many A24 sails, including Chilles, They do not need measurements ! Chilles were perfect , and are very good to talk to (dont bother to email)! Look through previous postings we discussed this a lot, Ask for out of season and payment up front prices , dont expect quick delivery but the boss talks to you!
sallybrown490 10 years ago
thats cool I like that. If they got all the measurments and they know the boat, there is no need for long discussions, thanks
busy home [deleted] 10 years ago
The owner sails a Splinter ,,serious racing stuff, similar shape to Achilles ,, Van de stat. design 1970s Chilles fully battened main and tri radial genny were about £1200 a year ago,
I bought a roller genny for Gos
kar from them (not used yet of course,) I forget what I paid for it!
Daddsie 10 years ago
I notice that Hyde are offering buy one get the second half price. Now certainly is a good time to buy. I paid £850 for a Dacron 150% headsail two years ago, for the same money now I can get a Pentax one.
Skykomish E29 10 years ago
I just paid £350 for a hanked on Genoa from Crusader looks great and fairly fast delivery, obviously haven't tried it yet as Aeolus is now out of the water but looking forward to in the summer
sallybrown490 10 years ago
does anybody knows the dimensins of a storm jib for an A24 finkeel.
Daddsie 10 years ago
The Harken site has all our boat details on it, sail areas, block loadings etc. Go to the compuspec section
sallybrown490 10 years ago
thanks, I've found it,
Storm Jib: Luff: 17' / Leech: 13'6'' / Foot: 6'9'' = 42sq. ft.
because it's not the same, to sail with a rolled (shorter) LLjib in a strong wind. I'm looking first for a second hand befor buing a new one... does a storm jib has a tighter dacron than a normal jib, or is it the same?
Skykomish E29 Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Skykomish E29 (member) 10 years ago
Daddsie perhaps the Harken web site address would be a worthy mention on preffered suppliers thread? as I hope that we can make up a one stop database for just such enquiries there. Hopefully if we get enough details listed it will be worth oneday making up a CD so that all this information can be sent out to members for easy reference

SallyBrown: Storm jibs as I understand it in this country at least, are required to be made from a "Dayglo" material i.e. Orange, alternatively old ones need to be converted at a sil loft by having a large orange patch sewn onto them. I believe that they are generally stronger but not sure about the weight of material used, (my original one feels the same as my normal sails).
sallybrown490 10 years ago
I see, last question: has your original storm jib the following dimensions: Luff: 17' / Leech: 13'6'' / Foot: 6'9'' = 42sq. ft.
Daddsie Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Daddsie (member) 10 years ago
I had a brand new one that came with Rumrunner, I only stuck it up a few months ago on a crew training evening, Yes it is Dayglo orange and it is made of some fairly heavy weight material. Hopefully will never have to use it again (unless for training purposes!)
Mike A1 10 years ago
SallyBrown, My storm jib has the same measurements as you give. I've never used it because the previous owner converted to a roller reefing geona. The material is not much heavier than the long luff jib I have.

Having a brightly coloured sail might be a good idea but as far as I know this is not mandatory. FWIW, mine is white.
rothwell_neil 10 years ago
I have a white (well grey as very old and mucky) one of slightly heavier weight than the genny. Small and no hanks, hope I never need it.
Skykomish E29 Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Skykomish E29 (member) 10 years ago
OK just to clarify, according to P.B.O.'s sail expert (PBO August2007)
"The safety regulations for racing and commercial vessels require storm sails to be either made of brightly coloured cloth (normally high visibility orange Dacron in 8oz or 9 oz, roughly 275 - 300g) or else fit a similarly coloured patch to the sails".

Whereas being leisure users we don't necessarilly fall into this class, we are possibly leaving ourselves open to criticism, should anything happen, if we choose to ignore this advice, and whereas nothing in leisure sailing is mandatory or indeed policed, when something goes wrong it is then that the "blame apportionment" takes over and can have an effect on how or if a claim is settled.
I think that the much quoted "Ouzo enquiry" highlights this fact, and aas such we ignore recommendations at our peril :)
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