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NormanKlipspringer 4:51pm, 16 November 2007
Has anyone used a Spinnaker/cruising chute snuffer. I am rather tempted by the idea after reading an article about Hyde snuffers. Bit expensive at about £250, but it might enable be to fly the spinnaker when out on my own.
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
Your a brave man Norm!
Super Snoopy 050 11 years ago
I was quoted about £100 by Jeckells a few years ago. Having a fancy name shouldn't put the price up that much so the base price may have increased substantially over the years. We were thinking of getting one for Snoopy at this year's boat show but if they are that pricey, may go for a cruising chute instead.
santalars 11 years ago
Just as a general suggestion:
I found out that parts are much cheaper if I order them in Germany.
In Ireland that means an average saving of 30%.
One of the biggest German chandlers is SVB.
I've just checked it and can confirm that the web site is available in Englisch also.

Have a look at www.svb.de
busy home [deleted] 11 years ago
No prices though? (hit union jack for english)
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NormanKlipspringer Posted 10 years ago. Edited by NormanKlipspringer (admin) 10 years ago
Decided to buy a Quaysails snuffer which arrived a few days ago. First time out was Tuesday. Launched spinnaker with a bit of difficulty, but on first drop the head of the snuffer seperated from the sock leaving the sock up the mast and the spinnaker still flying. Winds were light and I was not alone (two crew) so managed to drop spinnaker ok. Snuffer has been boxed and returned. On the phone QuaySails were apologetic and siad thwey would sort it out. I await its return to have another go and will keep you informed. i was out yesterday on a Jaguar 21 and we were trying a Kemps snuffer for the first time on a cruising chute. This worked much better. I am off now to try another snuffer on a spinnaker on a Hurley 22. Great fun - but you do need patience.
Amrum 9171Y 10 years ago
I put some photos of Snifter's cruising chute ans snuffer on the site last winter. I may get a chance to try it tonight, although I'm tempted to use it without. I'll try and get some pics with it up.
craig48uk 10 years ago
Used them on bigger boats, the last being the C&C39 we had here, that's now in Scotland. I was flying an assymetric chute from a 45ft catamaran out of it and the snuffer was a godsend, easily flying it 2 up in lots of wind.
Last time was in about 20-25 knots true, running in big swell in the return race from Anegada where we peaked at 11.5 knots. (The boat is from 1973 and definitley a displacement hull.) Comfortable in knowing I could squeeze the sock down at any time if things got hairy we kept going until........the tack block exploded and the sail started flogging away. Trying to squeeze was not going to happen as the uphaul/downhaul continuous line for the snuffer had wrapped numerous times.
Dumped the whole lot on the deck and went white sails until I could get the squeezer off completely and rehoist without it.
So. I love snuffers, but beware the uphaul/downhaul lines don't get twisted up!
Amrum 9171Y 10 years ago
I've loaded some photos from Thursday night when I finally got the snuffer and chute up for the first time. It really could have been the first time ever, as it really is in good condition. The snuffer was a pain to use, and I think I'll use the chute without. I've put thoughts on how on one of the photos.
Skykomish E29 10 years ago
Looks like you had a really nice sail....
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NormanKlipspringer 9 years ago
Just to bring you up-to-date on my snuffer. I have now used it on several occaions with some success. the following are my notes on its use.
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Using a Spinnaker Snuffer on an Achilles 24
Single-handed.

Snuffer from Quay Sails Poole with extra long up/down haul. Spinnaker standard 350 sq ft.
A plastic basket (B & Q) is used to hold the spinnaker. This is marked clearly so that the handles can be identified as port/starboard.
The spinnaker sheets and halyard are fitted with snap shackles.
Tiller pilot required to hold the course while dealing with spinnaker.
Preventer for the main sail is recommended to avoid accidental gybes.
It is assumed that the spinnaker halyard, uphaul and downhaul are all routed back to the cockpit.

Cockpit launch and recovery
Spinnaker guy and sheet are extra long to allow for run out in emergencies without losing over the side.
Preparation
The spinnaker is inserted into the snuffer making sure that it is not twisted or wrapped around the uphaul.
The spinnaker is attached to the handles of the basket port to port and starboard to starboard with bungy. The spinnaker inside the snuffer is flaked into the basket along with the uphaul.
The spinnaker halyard attachment point is also attached to the bungy and the remaining loop of the up/down haul is also flaked into the basket. This is then ready for stowage or hoist.
The spinnaker sheets (red and green) and spinnaker halyard are rigged ready for launch. This can be done in harbour.
For a portside launch attach the spinnaker halyard and sheets together and secure to the port side safety rail near to the cockpit. The red port sheet can then be fed back through the port spinnaker block into the cockpit. The green starboard sheet can be walked forward around the boat outside of everything else and also fed back into the cockpit though the starboard spinnaker block.
The sheets can then be tidied until required at launch.
A preventer can be rigged in preparation for later use.
Launch
Raising the Snuffer
Haul down the Genoa out of the way.
Steer a course downwind with the wind just off the starboard quarter (almost downwind). Set this course into the tiller pilot. Ease out the mainsheet and rig the preventer.
Unfasten the spinnaker sheets and halyard attachment points from the basket handles and attach to their respective sheets and halyards which have been unclipped from the safety rails.
Pull on the spinnaker halyard and ease out the snuffer and control lines. Pull to the top of the mast and secure the halyard.
Launching the spinnaker
To help the snuffer deploy ease out then spinnaker as far as one can and while holding onto the sail pull the snuffer uphaul. The snuffer should now slide up the spinnaker, which should remain folded since you are holding the bottom.
As the snuffer rises pull the spinnaker guy and release the spinnaker sheet so that the spinnaker can move towards the bow. Continue until the spinnaker is fully deployed. Be careful that the snuffer does not get caught on the spreaders and shrouds. Secure the snuffer uphaul and downhaul.
The course can then be hardened if required and trimming adjusted to suit, using the guy to position the pole and the sheet to trim. The guy can be cleated off and the sheet held to trim as required.
Spinnaker Recovery
Have the basket ready in the cockpit.
Set a course similar to launch (just off downwind) setting the pole very close to the forestay.
Ease the spinnaker sheet to de-power the sail.
Pull on the snuffer downhaul and the snuffer should begin to drop. As this happens you will need to release the spinnaker guy to allow the snuffer to come down to the cockpit. Slack in the spinnaker sheet should also be taken up.
The spinnaker sheet and guy can then be removed and clipped to the rail and the spinnaker attached to the basket handles as in preparation.
The spinnaker halyard can then be lowered (don’t let go), while the sail and snuffer with uphaul are flaked back into the basket.
Once the sail is completely in the basket the halyard can be removed and attached to the safety rail with the sheets as above.
The spinnaker can then be stowed or readied for another launch.
Notes
Once flying the spinnaker can be gybed in the normal manner but recovery is only possible from the port side (launched side) unless the snuffer control lines are walked around the bow of the boat to the starboard side. This is not recommended other than in light winds, since the spinnaker is flying.
Care must be taken to ensure that the spinnaker does not twist when being packed and that the snuffer control lines do not tangle.
If the bottom of the sail is not held tight when launching the snuffer can ruck up and jam on the sail.
It is recommended that this process needs to be practised in light conditions
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NormanKlipspringer 9 years ago
I have now used the above technique successfully by myself many times and have found the deployment to be reliable with no twists in the sail. Recovery in easy. Yesterday I had the spinnaker up and down twice while out for a short sail with no problems(wind strength about force 3 variable). I would not reccommend it in higher winds by myself. I avoid doing a spinnaker gybe when by myself.
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