Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 and DMC-LX5 / Discuss

freddyboyw    says:

wow, loooks great, checking this out soon as i get in!
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shanecgriffo says:

nice,..quite a difference!.. hows the noise level up close?
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nima; hopographer says:

this ia not same frame. metering is changed. look at the lcd screen. it is brighter..!!
but ...this is nice feature.
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nima; hopographer says:

how much time it take to render a hdr image?
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ivan.lietaert    says:

Both pictures were taken one after the other. The iA images has 1/8sec exposure, the high dynamic image has 1/25 exposure. Both iso400 (that the highest my intelligent iso allows).
It takes the same amount of time to render/save the high dynamic image.
The darker areas are particularly noisy (intelligent exposure is being applied, I guess, allowing higher iso values in darker areas).
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treeffe2000 says:

Here is my attempt to High Dynamic scene:
on the left the Hi-Dyn on the right an A (aperture priority mode)
"ART option"

jpmccormac says:

I like the HDR option in the crude tests I did, but don't like the fact that it only works in ISO 400. Shadow details are well rendered though contrast and saturation seem to be turned down.
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jaxonspictures    says:

High Dynamic "Art" mode. I darkened this a bit in Picasa.


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Sour-cheese says:

Here's mine:
www.clubsnap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5479451&postco...

I notice some highlights were slightly blown out but this scene mode is just amazing.

I imagine it would work very well for sunset/sunrise photos at the beach as well.
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Boon Ong    says:

Nice DR! =)
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What Photos Look Like    says:

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Joez Bong says:

kuvvy    says:

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Jacek Z. says:

Yesterday I took my LX3 for the first v.2.0 HDR walk to the forrest. Did you notice that in some landscape compositions in High Dynamic mode - e.g. between dark tree line and bright sky - there happens a brighter halo?

How do you find it? Is it painful? Looks a bit unnatural to me, though some photography handbooks say a bright strip between the ground and the sky is natural (what may happen also when we use an ND grad filter).

[BTW, I heard the same issue exists in bigger & pricier Pentax K-7.]
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WestLothian    says:

I did notice the halo effect too. It is common in most HDR tone mapping software and in-camera dynamic range processes as the local region brightness is adjusted to help with boosting smaller detail contrast.
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reyfoto71 says:

reyfoto71 says:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/reyfoto71/3976379390/sizes/l/]
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reysa71 says:

reysa71 says:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/reysa71/3978613047/]
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0lrak says:

kuvvy    says:

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kuvvy    says:

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ramseur78    says:

"it only works in ISO 400" Is that true. Have not updated the new firmware yet but if the HDR mode only works at 400 that sucks because I try not to shoot anything over 200 cause of noise since I print alot of my pics.
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melethia    says:

Normal and HDR - Art setting. (Do I need to add these to the pool or can I just post the thumbs here?)




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Jacek Z. says:

@ramseur78:
Yes, unfortunately, that is true. I believe the only sensible reason for that is the fact the camera is making (just guessing) 2 or 3 shots at various exposures within a very short time (something like EV bracketing, but much faster) - and ISO400 minimizes the risk the camera (hand-held all the time) is moved between or during the shots.

Obviously, it's not good as far as the noise is concerned: ISO80 would be cleaner; but don't forget the noise is most annoying in shadows, and there are not as many dark areas in HDR as in normal EV range shots.

For me it's also no good I cannot manually change the aperture in the High Dynamic mode. Well, it looks I have to accept this, or use v.2.0's increased EV bracketing and a tripod, which is, honestly, not my favourite tool;-)
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shanecgriffo says:

jacek, i dont think it is doing multi shot hdr style, just one shot and a bit of tricky processing.. thats my understanding anyway
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Jacek Z. says:

You think a "false HDR" technology, sometimes utilized by RAW files users? So why they would keep it as high as ISO400?...

For instance: Pentax said their K-7 uses three frames. Sony Alpha 550 and Fuji F200EXR are using two frames. I hope such info is finally revealed by Panasonic.
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shanecgriffo says:

I have to say,i'd be very suprised if it was more than one frame!
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ivan.lietaert    says:

I think it is a refinement of their 'intelligent exposure' technique, attributing higher iso values to darker segments of the sensor.
Take a look at this picture, the right hand (dark) side: it is much more grainy compared to the rest. (click it to watch in full size).

Tech dictionary:
In digital camera terminology, Intelligent Exposure is a function of the camera that helps to avoid blown highlights and blocked shadows by suppressing the extreme brightness and darkness in the picture. This function works by partially controlling the ISO sensitivity to increase the exposure of only the darkened area when there is backlighting or insufficient flash lighting to capture the scene as viewed by the photographer through the camera. Intelligent Exposure is a function found in many Panasonic brand digital cameras. On Nikon brand of digital cameras, the similar function is called D_Lighting.
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Mat_Zy says:

I think we need to realize the new high dynamic sceen mode is not HDR, if it was panasonic would call it that! The camera is not taking multiple exposures.
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RS PhotoArt says:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rey_chile/4006816761/]
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iRaNsiRiJiLLo says:

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kuvvy    says:

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reysa71 says:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/reysa71/4007677124/sizes/l/in/set-72157622042171992/]
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RS PhotoArt says:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rey_chile/4006813605/sizes/l/]
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azoomer says:

HDR in camera by using multi-exposure mode at Aperture priority or Manual.

Start with +2 (or more) EV, then 2nd shot -2EV and 3rd shot -3EV.

Just experiment. You could get natural looking HDRs this way without any software.
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rodcasro    says:

it´s amazing... with High Dynamic scene and 400 ISO there is no noise...

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Brett F says:

{sigh} I love this camera. :-)
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lavawave says:

Just testing out the low-light capabilities.


HD Standard / F2.0 1/50 ISO 400


HD Art / F2.0 1/25 ISO 400
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David S Wilson    says:

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HDR art mode is great!
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seventy5s    says:

This was taken in HD art. I agree with rodcasro, there's hardly any noise. Certainly much cleaner that 400 ISO with regular shots.


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pizzodisevo (therapy - terapia - Therapie)    says:

Just my first shots with updated LX3




HDR - Art setting. -- right is: High Dynamic setting
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2-dÖts says:

So is High Dynamic setting in new firm ware same as HDR with auto bracket feature?
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BVP14    says:

no, two different things, well kind of the same, but different...

High Dynamic is a new scene mode, where the camera takes one shot, and does its best to get you an HDR image with one shot

but more interesting to me, is the new firmware update allows us to auto bracket +/- 3!

i may be wrong, but before we could only autobracket +/- 1?

here is my first photo i took when i autobracket +/- 2. I took this photo literally seconds after updating my firmware from the laptop on the desk.


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2-dÖts says:

Yes you are correct. Prior to firmware it was -/+1 now it is -/+3. I have been shooting one single raw and then tone map in photomatix pro. I will compare to HD setting to see if there is any major differrence.

Your shot. That was autobracketig? What software did you use?
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santa_satan says:

Wat Prathat Lampang Laung
Lampang, Thailand

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BVP14    says:

hey 2-dots..yeah, i auto bracketed +/- 2 Was JPEG, and used same program, photomatix. that program is great, but its a headache to get everything looking how you want it.

after that, i tweaked it using the free stuff in picnic, i think its a nice way to make photos pop a little. but maybe photoshop would've been better.
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Rjs images    says:

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pizzodisevo (therapy - terapia - Therapie)    says:

It would be nice if you can change the ISO down to 80 or 100.

Today I made another one, autobracked and then in Photomatix, will post it soon.
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pizzodisevo (therapy - terapia - Therapie)    says:

Here it is

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helen.2006    says:

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4light says:

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4light says:

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Every Colour You Are    says:

St. Stephen's Cathedral, Vienna
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Derrick S.    says:

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pizzodisevo (therapy - terapia - Therapie)    says:

Just impressive shot with ISO 400, such a clean photo, great update 2.1.

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proview1122 says:

Heres my go at HDR
View from the road of Gordes a village in Provence France

BTW, how do you link to the larger pics mine always come out the same size? Its my first post.

pizzodisevo (therapy - terapia - Therapie)    says:

Go to all sizes and pic the medium size and you are ok.
Your pic is:
ISO Speed: 160, I guess its not a High Dynamic shot, it would be 400 ISO
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svet    says:

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rblx3 says:

wow some gorgeous pictures here
\i'm going to try this out.
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pizzodisevo (therapy - terapia - Therapie)    says:

In HD setting the shutter time goes not slower then 1/8 sec?
I imposted my on to 1 sec.

Nothing changes if you change EV + 2 or - 2, anybody has noticed that?
or am I wrong?

Controlling the shots above in the exit data I didnt find a slower time then 1/8 sec.
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BBEAM'08 says:

Illbegood73 says:

Hello, this is my first high dynamic shot

SLN 57 says:

Venice yesterday.

catpeople09 says:

HD art mode

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The Globetrotting photographer    says:

HRD



HRD - Black and white


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Jacek Z. says:

@ pizzodisevo

From my experience, in the High Dynamic mode -/+3 EV compensation works normally, and, surprisingly, -/+3 EV bracketing is also available. Tested on version 2.0.
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cbzw says:

Derrick S.    says:

Big Basin Redwood State Park in California.

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pugnax says:

ali3nist    says:

Fraulein 2009 says:

Very interesting thread. Here is mine. First before then after using Photomatix.




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Remo Alberto Pierri    says:

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doninside    says:

www.flickr.com/photos/doninside/4127818026/
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im_yang says:

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jenrif says:

Hi everyone
Here is another one from PROVENCE
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-julianol-    says:

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satansperineum    says:

just got my LX3 2 days ago (you can see the box in the background)
Scene Mode (HDR Art)

Photo_Mug says:

Downtown Denver - Hand Held Moon Shot

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aaron.ferrucci    says:

Square and dynamic:

.Rephlex. says:

Looks like a CAD rendering.

lx3po    says:

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The Globetrotting photographer    says:

Melbourne University


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The Globetrotting photographer    says:

^^^ Needless to say, i find it outrageous that no one has commented on my beautiful photo.
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Wagboy    says:

Black & White in High Dynamic mode

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StevenCee says:

Straw-hat Lupin says:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/lmijeyes/4226884185/]
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reyfoto71 says:

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fabiengelle    says:

ern st.    says:

@fabiengelle: i love you shot... may i know what settings u used? ie. iso, shutter speed/aperture.. tks.
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