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you're about 2 hours late on this post...
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speak of unfortunate souls like me who bought the XTi a month back and had a 'feeling' for the 40D, but couldnt afford it ;)
the 450D seems to be modeled aroudn the 40D...liveview, great viewfinder...blah blah....
owww, the pain of wrong timing ;)
just consoling myself the 450D is costlier...899 with the IS lens...
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I am with you a.g.j. I bought my XTi a month ago...and got so many goodies for it.
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Yeah, I recently got a XTi not too long ago as well. Luckily, I am still within return policy ;)
Digital Photography Review also has a brief hands-on review posted as well..
You may find the new Canon 450D group of interest as well..
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even i bought my XTi a month ago ....
@shadinsb: yeah just got a mail from my friend about it...
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My 400D was stolen about a year ago, and not until last September I could afford a new one. Now I'm sad...
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when will the 400D price drop?
achin' for it....don't care about the latest and greatest...
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hoho...a flickr group for the 450D already????? ;)
dont worry folks...console urself with the feeling that even if u got the 450D, you'd be saying "owwwwww" when the 500D (XRi? ;) is out...
and think of all those lovely pics u've taken over the last month...;)
if even that doesnt work...just sell ur 400D ;)
from a price perspective, a 450D is costly...its on the levels of the Nikon D80 in terms of price and features...slightly ahead in terms of features though....
Liveview, large LCD, better viewfinder, better battery, SD cards...its all cool...
Comparing the 450D to the 40D, I think the 40D might be a better choice considering that u are anywas stretching ur pursestrings...
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there's a couple 450d groups already. have been for a few days or so...
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According to the press release, 450D is coming out in April... damn...
I was just about to buy Canon 400D last week before i stumble upon the rumors about 450D. Now with the announcement, i have to wait another 4monhts for it. hmmmm.....
Going to Spain in the middle of April. I think that is cutting it really close right.... ??
What do you guys think, should i just buy 400D or wait for 450D?
Or.... A radical approach
Think about buying a NIKON... hahahaa...
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I can't wait. I'm not upgrading, so I don't feel bad about getting an xti in a week or so.
save on the body, spend on the glass...
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I bought my 400D about 3 weeks ago, but I'm fine with it for now, really. I can live without the new features. :)
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Just Live View and a couple of extra megapixel (on the same surface, meaning less quality) ???
Where's the deal?
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ha ha I knew for sure once I got the xti new one would come out...might make it a 2nd body choice though for when I don't want to chg lenses...
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Wouldn't it be nice if Canon offered a special upgrade price to people that purchased the 400D just before the announcement of the 450D?
Well I can dream can't I?
(Owner of a 2 month old 400D)
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I can't understand why do you fancy this camera... It's the same camera with a worse sensor and some useless feature...
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Come on, stick to the 400D... it's much more hardcore to shoot from the viewfinder instead of the live view (imho it's terrible to see people shooting with their arms stretched looking at a not so trustworthy lcd screen).
And as said before, save on the camera, spend on glass!
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That's right dammit. Could get some cool goodies with that extra $400!
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Yeah, get a fast prime for that money! (20, 24, 28, 50, 85, 90, 100, 105mm...) There's tons of them!
Maybe I should be getting one myself...
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Well I'm not about to jump to a 450D and I've had my 400D 13months. I think the new rear design looks 'clumsy', I prefer CF to SD, the only things I like are the 3" screen and spot metering. I'm going to wait for the 50D.
All the new owners should remember they've probably bought their 400D/XTi at a significant discount already. The 400D was in the UK going for as little as £300 after cashback at Christmas, though most retailers seem to be offering it at £400ish now, so I'd expect the 450D to come in at £500ish.
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they still didn't take care of the self timer
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I agree save on camera and spend the money on a good lens and upgrade camera in a few years.There will be an even better one by then !!
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 But you can sell your old body to help mitigate the price of the new body.
And LiveView can come in really handy for those angles where you just can't comfortably get your eye behind the viewfinder.
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Oh, And I forgot to mention CF cards suck.
I had my camera for two weeks before it had to go back to Canon because one of the pins broke off inside the CF card I was using.
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that's the problem in living at the digatal era. the moment you buy any device and it is outdated. its endless
don't try to cope up with the manufacturers yuo will be the only one to lose. dont't become slaves to technology it shoukd serve you not the other way round.
and invest your money in some good lenses rather than in mult-mega-pixeles machines
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kur0mu [deleted] says:
Just remember, them releasing the 450D does not make our 400D a bad camera!
I do not see the fascination of Live View anyway. It is a mechanism designed for people that are used to looking at the LCD to shoot instead of the viewfinder. My Fujifilm had the option of an EVF or the LCD and I shot the EVF exclusively. Just the way I was brought up.
That does not make Live View as a bad feature, it is just not a big selling point for me that all the manufacturers appear to be developing.
Really, I think the most attractive feature is the 12.2 mp followed closely by the improved viewfinder. Still, not enough to make me want to drop my hard earned money on one when my 400D is more than suitable for me needs.
Viva la 400D!
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Jessops have got it available on pre-order in the UK for £599.99 via there website.
Don't think I'll be bothering unless something fatal happens to my 400d!
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The 40 D is the true upgrade here. Better viewfinder, rear control wheel, better noise control, better grip, better construction overall......the ten mp's don't bother me, better to have fewer in the same size sensor.
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somebody earlier in this thread said the 450D has a worse sensor - can someone please elaborate on that? it appears as if they are the same exact sensors...
and yes... VIVA LA 400D!!!!!! ;)
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My 400D is the shiz and I don't care what anyone says!
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I think it's a cool camera but one thing does P me off. The fact that they've dropped the compactflash standard and have gone for an SDHC slot instead is just annoying.
I know memory doesn't cost much, but seriously... Why!????
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funkyrobot: it has the same sensor size, but 20% more pixel. it means, that the individual pixels are smaller than before. with smaller pixels the noise increases. i think this is the reason to consider the new sensor as "worse"...
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Szoke is right....it's silly to pack more pixels into the same sized sensor. That introduces more noise, even if the Dicic III is better at processing it. And the extra NR only means loss of detail. Canon has fallen face first into the megapixel rat race, and that's too bad. They did the same thing with the s5is, and its noise performance is said to be pretty bad. The extra 2 mp's are NOT a reason, in my book, to buy this camera.
In fact, if you look at comparisons, the older Canon 30D, with 8 MP's, and the Digic II, ha slightly better noise performance at high ISO's than does the 40 D with the Digic III. That's b/c the 40 has more mp's. It will be interesting to see how the 450's hi ISO noise performance compares to the 400.
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Is the 450 considered a pro camera?
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crvillalva no, still entry level
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The bastards.
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Oops did I say that out loud?
I just bought the 400d before Christmas.
:(
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as a post above me has stated, More condensed pixels on a surface that hasn't gotten any bigger results in more noise. This is why I secretly laugh at all the folks who own 30D's who upgraded to the 40D then realized that the 30D has better high iso performance HAHAHAHA!! in your face rich folks!! Ill just continue to use my obsolete camera and save to hopefully jump on the upgrade bandwagon on the next go-around.
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Seriously are you gonna see so much difference between a 10MP en a 12MP? eitherway im stying with my400D cause the improvements aren't that many... dont like the SD, CF extreme III have proven to me very fast and reliable and won't trade it.
Maybe when the 500D is announced I'll start saving some pennies to think about upgrading. If the 450D can heat up my burrito while taking pictures i'll get it otherwise is a no no
You do have a bigger screen which is nice of couse but i dont know what to feel right now... either cheated cause its not long ago i bought mt 400D or relieved because some of the above posts sound like the sensor wont be taken as good pics as the 400D one ... i hope so hhahaha
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it sounds good at first, I'd like the larger file and spot metering and I don't shoot at high ISO but dropping the CF card made my decision. at that price I could have a 30D, better all around!
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I think that most important improvements are the bigger viewfinder and the spot metering. I wouldn't consider upgrading from my 400D. I even was is the dillema of buying one of the last 350Ds instead of 400D originally. I would end up owning a 50mm f/1.4 instead of the f/1.8
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funkyrobot says:
somebody earlier in this thread said the 450D has a worse sensor - can someone please elaborate on that? it appears as if they are the same exact sensors...
It because your ramming more of those peskey pixels on the same area.
in theory more pixels means better quality, not necessarily the case
Buy glass if you have had the 400d for any length of time you know the difference glass make to your pictures, look at the differences between the 450 and 400, is there anything there that improves picture quality AS WELL as good quality glass does.
I think there are a good few generations of low end canon DSLR to go before that really happens or pay at least 100% more for a mid range body before calling it an upgrade is this not just a facelift and the addition of a few quirky niceties
Vive la 400D
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for us existing 400D owners, theres really no point upgrading to this 450D...the fact we have to buy new memory sticks it really....this 450 seems more aimed at converting P&S users to DSLR users by catering to their existing SD cards....people already invested in the canon lineup will have to upgrade to 40D to get the same features, but keep their CF cards....
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As mentioned elsewhere in this thread- no need to be down if you own a 400D- replacements are always on the cards, and who knows when 450D will be replaced? I got my 400D before Xmas and am not too concerned about the arrival of a new model.
As the Talmud says:
Who is rich?
The one who appreciates what he has...
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Wouldn't the new spot metering and the 14bit A/D conversion/Digic III be more important than the increase in MP? Those to me are what would make me want it.
However I still love my four month old XTi. It will serve me well until the day I can afford a full frame (and deserve it as well).
When I want new toys I go to thrift stores in search of old Polaroids/rangefinders :)
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jsleepr edited this topic 18 months ago.
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Anybody have any idea when it's going to be released?
Preferably in the UK?
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To hell with the 450d
400d Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whos with me?
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HELL YEAH!
We should make shirts... Down with the 450D!!!
Hahaha
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Personally i wouldn't consider 450D an upgrade of the 400D. the main advantage is the 14bit A/D. and some say the spot metering too (which is not very appeal to me)
little things like +/- 3EV AEB is good, but is still 3 shots bracket.
biggest problem I can see for the 400D owner to upgrade is... Different memory cards, and different battery (and grips of course)
for those who are like me invested quite a bit in the 400D, if we have to give up all these stuff, might as well go one step higher to 30/40D.. or even higher (5D?)
that's my 2 cents
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Business marches on, and not always in the right direction. This is true, and therefore a "next generation" of the XTi is not a big surprise. Don't fret folks. Your 400D is as awesome today as it was a week ago, unless you dropped it in a fire in the meantime. Latest is not necessarily greatest, and even if it is, what's the diff? A terrific camera is still a terrific camera, whether or not there is a better or newer version.
Bobby McFerrin may be cliched at this point, but he was right. Don't worry, be happy.
As far as the announcement goes, it will be interesting to see how the camera rates, noisewise, versus the XTi. And SD? No thanks. Yes, yes, the pins can break when inserting CF cards, I know. Somehow I've managed to insert and remove CF cards thousands of times over the last five years (my previous two point and shoots used CF as well) without ever breaking a pin. I have however managed to get finger oil on the exposed leads of my SD cards time and time again, and find them far too dainty and flimsy for my big fingers.
A better standard would be a slotted card that has flat leads inside the slot and mounts on a raised board inside the memory compartment. This would alleviate the fragile pins, but not expose the leads or make the cards so teensy. Miniaturization is great, but if it is something human hands of all sizes are supposed to manipulate, there's a point of diminishing returns!!
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I still have an A-1 from the 1980's and an FTb from the late 60's. They still take great images using film. I use the XTi mostly becasue I no longer have a darkroom. Unless there is a specific feature the XTi does not have that you must have, why buy the 450d?
I believe the most important feature for good photographs is a "photographer's eye."
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Here Here.
I bought a second hand 350d for 50 euros. The seller said that the camera was faulty and wouldnt write the photos to the card on the camera. He tried a different CF and it still wouldnt work.
I got the camera, stuck on a pair of surgical gloves, put on my forehead mounted lamp and went to work with a pair of tweezers.
After straightening the pin inside the 350d I now have a handy back-up camera in case my 400d becomes sick. Failing that, I would have used it in my studio hooked up to my laptop. No need for the CF.
Hes sorry he sold it now I can tell you.
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Well I got mine in November and I have no regrets. There are a few improvements, but nothing stellar. My buddies shoot with Nikon D70's (6MP) and they have great shots and enlargements. So 10 MP to 12 MP doesn't make me jealous. Like it's been said before, the camera takes you so far, then it's about the glass. Besides, there will always be something better. No point in worrying about what new toy to coming out.
Besides, if I was to upgrade at some point, I'd go 40D.
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@ rafalweb
So we would all be better off buying the new nikon with full frame sensor rather thatn a 1ds mk III ( 12.2 mp compared to 21 mps). I understand where youre coming from but with sensor technology advancing all the time I dont think its much of a surprise, also the sensor will be refined and optimised fro the eos 50d, when it comes out!
I read a lot of photo magazines and cant help but notice a definite nikon bias, the 40d was slated for having less mp than the 300 but then when reviewing the nikon d3 the same magazine said that the amount of mega pixels didn't matter!! Perhaps canon is just fed up with all the ( undeserved ) nikon hype!
By the way, I bought my 400d 4 months ago and I'm not at all bothered about this new release, my 400d is a fantastic camera and it's the best thing I've ever bought. It could be far worse, I could have bought a Nikon 40x instead ( or heaven forbid, an Alpha 100 ) and sat there all night waiting for the usb mk I interface to download my raw files, so cheer up all!
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awesomeive edited this topic 18 months ago.
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While I must admit the 450 looks very nice, I'm still stoked with my 400. Its capabilities are far above mine so It'll be a long time before I outgrow it. I would like the live view the 450 offers though.
I recently recieved my £50 cashback and the 400 was less than I was expecting it to begin so thats an extra bonus.
My girlfriend bought a 300d a couple of year ago and she's still over the moon with that.
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awesomeeive: No, you don't have to go full frame.....F/F and APS-C are two different stories. It's a well known fact that at this point, that the camera manufacturers are cramming more and more pixels into the cropped sensors for marketing reasons. Panasonic just put out a digicam with 8.1 mp with a top ISO of 6400....just to appeal to the thought that all these numbers automatically make a better camera. Nikon just crammed 4 million extra pixels into the D40 to make a D40X, just to compete with the Xti.....it's a rat race. The technology has to catch up with all of these pixels. I would rather spend 700 bucks on the 8mp 30D than more money for a 10 or 12 mp model (can't afford the 5D). The pix are just better. That's my rant.
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Stupid 450D, i mean come on, the freaking 400D was released not too long ago! Alright, so that means i'm not gonna upgrade to the 40D because the 50D will probably come out in a few months!
I'm just bitter, if i had known about this, i would've saved my money for the 450D =/.
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I bought my XTi a year ago. For those who bought it more recently, I don't see why it matters. The new features are nice but nothing critical. Even if you did want the XSi, you'd have to pay a lot more for it than you did for your XTi anyway.
This is my thinking... if I ever do want to upgrade it'll be down the line, maybe the successor to the 40D, or even the model after that. By then I wouldn't be surprised if the xxD models have become fullframe. And unless I can sell my current XTi AND find an awesome deal for the XSi, I'm investing in some nicer lenses instead.
In reality if you have the XTi, an upgrade to the XSi is nothing more than the urge to have the newest. Kind of like fools who go through new ipods every year, lol. :)
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You see, real men use CF anyway.
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This news is no biggie to me really. Live view would be useful (very interesting article on it in this quarters Eos Magazine) - especially the ability to do depth of field preview without the image 'going dark'. However, these improvements seem fairly marginal. 10.1 MP on the 400D will give me a 12x8 print at 300 dpi and that's probably as big as I would ever need to go.
If I were to upgrade, it would probably be after a good few years when (hopefully) the cost and weight of full frame cameras will have come down. But then again the extra effective focal length a crop sensor does come in very handy for wildlife shots.
One thing does worry me though - why the move to SD cards? And what is the SDHC format - doesn't that feature some compression? Will all future Canons move to SD cards?
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man they seem to be popping them out at canon - it's a bit stupid really - they could easily sit on the 400D for another year before doing an upgrade.
I wont be upgrading until they have a replacement for the 5D - it can't be too far off.
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I received my 400D from the UPS man yesterday and I don't regret ordering at all. There looks like there are a couple of nice features and a couple of question marks, but if I was given the choice again today, I think I'd still choose to pay less for the 400D.
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A few differences no one has mentioned yet:
The 450D's RAW files are 14-bit. Hypothetically, this could give you a little more leeway in post-processing, but only if the sensor is sensitive enough.
Also, Live View comes with a live histogram.
Take that for what it's worth.
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a.g.j. hit it right on the button. I got mine in August and am saving up for other upgrades. All the new features seem like they aren't needed. Bigger LCD, new kit lens, blah, blah, blah. Only good thing is the extra .5 frames per second.
ChrisG
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now that the 450D is coming, the 500D is not that far off. after that, the 550D. its gonna be better than this 450D stuff. real men (..and women) are going to use 550D.
...i'm sticking with my S500 that i bought 5 years ago.
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@ rafalweb
Fair enough m8, you're points are valid, it wasn't a knock, just an observation. My brother has been saying for a couple of years that this type of sensor will level out at about 12mp, looks like he may have been correct.
All the points on extra signal to noise ratio are valid, plus excessive noise reduction does indeed make for softer pics. The only thing we can do is wait and see.
You also make another good point, the 40d is the way to go if you're gonna upgrade from the 400, thats what my brother did and thats why I ended up with a 400d, thank god he did!!
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I'm going back to film...
I don't think I can keep up!
UGHHHHHHH!
(they still make film cameras, right?)
Then my only problem is, that in 5 years no one will be processing film except in specialty labs. But hey, that gives me a good 5 years to just sit back and watch you guys fret over 400, 450, 500,550, 1500, 17528300, blah blah blah..............
Yep, film 4 me.
Someone explain to me again, which slot in my computer do I need to put my processed film into, to upload to Flickr?
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There is a service available to allow you to put digital images on film for archiving purposes. Makes me wonder...
I still shoot some B&W images every year of the family and save the prints in archive folders. Color fades so fast (relatively speaking) but good B&W lasts a long time. I think we will have a generation or two of images of family lost by those who shoot only color images. not sure how digital archiving will work but I am think I should be concerned about storage regardless of which 400, 450, etc. I am using.
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I think I'll save my funds, until I can afford a 5D or Mark III....
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Dennis.....damn right. Film will never be obsolete...as long as there are people who really love to take pics, there will always be film. I'm dragging my AE-1 out of mothballs.
Check out www.freestylephoto.biz....they have all the film you'll ever need, and can refer to you to any developing outfit....
All this digital "progress" is making me dizzy.
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Just bought my 400D yesterday, and I'm loving it! No regrets that the 450D is coming out soon. The extra pixels and other "upgrades" are not that critical to me. So I'm going out shooting and enjoying the nice day. I hope everyone enjoy the day too!
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I just got my hubby the XTI, he loves it as it suits his needs. I still have a 30D which produces stunning photos and is faster than his XTI although has 2 less mega pixels, overall 8 to 10 MP makes little difference and the 10 to 12 would be just the same. I have refrained from jumping straight up to the 40D as the 30D does as good a job. I personally believe that if you only recently got the XTI I would concentrate on what glass you have which is now what hubby is looking at. Between us we now have 7 lenses (2 Ls) and a 1X4 TC. Just enjoy your camera and don’t get too caught up in the latest new beaut camera as it will soon be upgraded as well
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just got my XTi for christmas. But im not going to worry, I have been aching for the XTi since christmas 2006 just hoping someday ill have it. I'm sticking with it for a looong time, I can't notice a single difference between pictures taken with a 20d and a 400d, we just have a plastic body really. Anyways ill be spending my money in lenses and lighting stuff, Im sticking with my 400
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Looks sweet!
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I was about to jump from Olympus to Canon, having bought a G9 to pocket with my Oly e400 bodies and zd lenses. I liked the 400d, especially because it uses the same batteries as my G9, I travel a lot, and figured on bunch of batteries, one wall charger, one car charger, sorted. Nows they release the 450d and I suddenly see that I may as well choose from a broader range of options, because the batteries aren't going to match anyway. Hmmm...
Sounds sad, a choice based on batteries, but immensely practical in my case.
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I was guessing they would release a new version of 5D before the rebel, so this is quite a surprise. The XTi is still a young model.
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I was going to wait until I actually got my 400D before joining the group, but this thread has made me join early!
I've looked at all the comments and the reviews online, and I'm still going to buy the 400D. I was going to have to be happy with the kit lens for now as I've only just got the money for it, but if I wait until the 450D comes out maybe the 400D will come down in price and I can afford another lens too.
I was happy that the 400D was giving me all I needed this time last week, why should I need more just because it's being offered? The extra 2mg just means I can take less pictures, and I know I won't notice the increase from the 6 I have now to the 12, any more than going from 6 to 10. No liveview just means I'll have to take a picture, then review to check out the histogram, and adjust then retake - isn't that how we learn?
Sorry, long first post to the group!
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dont buy 450D guys, wait for 2 years, 500D is coming! or may be wait for 4 years, to buy 550D :D :D
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Octobit edited this topic 18 months ago.
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Yeah, screw the 450D....right in the card slot...
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and while they build their collection of 400d 450d 500d.........750d......950d which will sit around as back up cameras, I'll be deciding which L series flourite clad beast I will take with me and how many I will need to plop on my 400d, for the day
.........and when i have all the lenses i want, i'll go for the flagship model body and rule the world........ for a year at least in till the new flagship model comes out (which will be CF not SD)
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MrFairlie edited this topic 18 months ago.
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Hey, do you suppose Canon reads this stuff?!?
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I am joining seaside photograph and hope there will be soon a new 5D so old ones will be sold at a good price....
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Unlike you guys I am on a win win situation.. Successful/Popular Products get here in my country after 6 months of being available in the US/European/Major Asian markets.. So I have nearly 1 year to cherish my 400D.. and if the 450D becomes successful there is a chance I go for one.. but I do think Upgrading into a full Frame makes much more sense (that is why I am favoring EF lenses right now) coz I am hoping to upgrade for 50D now that I found out that I am crazy about DSLRs..
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I'm sticking with my lovely 400d. Might be tempted with a 50d though!
(or wait the 60d - if my financial adviser has their way!)
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Just a thought for Pam Martin - make sure you get the new kit lens - the old one is not great! I am already wishing I'd gone for a body only and spent out on a decent lens. I use my £50 nifty fifty more than i use the kit lens that came with mine
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missmerredew - how do I know whether it's a new kit lens rather than old? What should I be looking for.
Still haven't decided what my basic needs should be yet, other than the 400D. Going to have a look through the threads here and see what my options are, but like the idea of the f1.8 on the fifty.
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Mmmmm - I thought that canon had released a new kit lens, but I cant find any details at all. Sorry.
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no problem
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@Pam Martin
the new kit lens that comes with the XSi has an IS on it. the old 18-55mm doesn't.
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pam martin
the old kit is obsolete now the later version of the 400d comes with the 18-55mm IS ask before you buy if the kit lense has Image Stabilizing
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"the old kit is obsolete now the later version of the 400d comes with the 18-55mm IS ask before you buy if the kit lense has Image Stabilizing "
is that true? from what i've been reading, it's only the 450D that has the IS lens as the kit lens. i believe the 400D sticks with the non IS lens.
can anyone shed some light on this?
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The new 400D kits include the IS version of the 18-55....all they're doing is changing the kit lens. Canon has been offering the IS kit with the 400 for a little while now.
BTW, I don't like the move to the SD card. I love my big, fat, meaty CF cards. Like holding a professional poker chip.
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yeah im feeling the same sorta dilema with a canon 5D, Do i wait, and see how much the price drops if and when the mark II is announced or get it in march....
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I've just been looking around and have seen a few places selling the IS kit lenses. Need to think about it though as it bumps the price up. Got to spend some time working through the options.
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rafalweb -
do you know how long ago they switched to the IS lens? i purchased my kit at the end of december and would like to figure out whether or not i should have gotten the IS lens.
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I honestly haven't seen a package of an XTi with with the 18-55mm IS here in our area yet so I can't vote if its true. even the B&H website still has the previous non-IS version included the last time I checked. It might be a regional thing but there's no harm in asking the sellers.
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In the UK www.jacobsdigital.co.uk/index.php?target=products&pro...
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www.jacobsdigital.co.uk/index.php?target=products&pro...
just two of the ones I've found.
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@Pam Martin
the link you gave us is for the XTi/400D with the 17-85mm IS. the original kit lens that's packaged by canon is the 18-55mm.
the 17-85mm is a more expensive lens that's why its pushing the price up for the package.
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blind puppet edited this topic 18 months ago.
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funky....I don't know how long it has been, but nothing is stopping you from getting the new lens anyway.....IS is always better. And there are lots of IS lenses in the Canon lineup, not just the 17-85.......I would look at the field and see what else there is.
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