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If you do not like the comment awards or icons, then there is a simple solution, do not join the groups.Rather than subjecting the ones who do not mind to whining.
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Because not everyone takes the time to check to profile pages and assume all of us enjoy the icons and invitations bestowed upon our creations, other solutions would be to simply delete the icon or comment you do not want or write in all caps in your description "NO ICONS OR INVITES PLEASE". I have seen that work quite effectively in some photostreams.
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It's not meant as whining, just as a friendly request. Your "solution" is none, since people get these obnoxious invites no matter if they are members of these groups or not.
Read this. Including the links and the comments.
Thanks for the suggestion. That may actually work - at least for people who visit my own pictures.
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You can also go to Firefox home page and get ad block, which will block the images, wont block text but will block the gifs. and other awards. Plus go to the group Flickr hacks and see what else they have for blocking methods.
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Set all your pics private and no one will say a word.
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You all can just come on over to my stream and give me the icons and awards...lol
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lol. ya I'd gladly take all the awards
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I'm curious why cybergaby would object. What's the issue?
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Who was it that said "If you can't stand the heat, leave the kitchen!"
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You can use Adblocker in Firefox to block the bling. Any text will remain.
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I am happy with the icons. What would be nice is some comments as well. Too often a photo gets an icon and you wonder if the poster just pasted the code so that they fulfilled the group rules.
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It would be really really sad if this were the only options to get rid of this plague.
But why would you even want them? It's like waiting in front of your letter box and all you get is advertisements, coupons or other spam! Or you're waiting for someone to call you, and only get calls from phone companies trying to sell their latest special rates to you! Do you really feel appreciated when all you get is conveyer-belt like (and mostly ugly) icons, all of which look the same? It's spam, for heaven's sake!
If you really want to know, take a break from whatever you're doing, sit down for 15 minutes and read this. All the way down to the very bottom - including the comments. Maybe that will give you an idea. And it will also tell you that I'm not alone.
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Cybergabi edited this topic 60 months ago.
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Maybe you would be happier on a site like Webshots! It's great too and there are no icons or groups...just comments from people!
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Oh, I'm very happy on flickr. I've been around for 2 years, have built a great contact base most of who share my feelings about those award thingies. It's only the random walkers-by who do this. I just wish they would respect that there are people out there who don't appreciate awards and icons. Then the flickrverse would be a better place.
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With over 7,000 photos in two years , I would be happy to get any kind of comments
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I can imagine that you'd be happy about that. 7,000 poodle photos must be very boring.
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Cybergabi edited this topic 60 months ago.
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Cybergabi, lol... great sense of humor there.
Anyway, I just want to say that I respect what you have had to say, and understand your dislike of icons in your comment section.
I personally don't feel bothered by them, (though I wish they were all atleast thumbnail size ~less of an add for a group and more of a "calling card" type thing) but I do respect other's preferences. I don't send invites for photos unless I check to see that they are in said group, or are in groups where icons are used. And I don't send invites to groups ~but I have been known to send flickrmail to tell them about some great ones I've found!
...And you should realize that you are not being sent "SPAM" people send you invites because they have really admired your photo, so maybe they were a little overzealous... but they meant it as a compliment. ~Not an attempt to get you riled up =)
Not everyone likes to have icons in their comment section. I get it, and it is quite ok. What I don't understand is why people are so upset that YOU don't. Openness, friendliness and constructive criticism people! That's what Flickr is about... and most groups too for that matter.
~Grain of salt everyone... have a great night.
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Denise ~*~ edited this topic 60 months ago.
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Maybe it's because I get so few
That I think the way I do
But I think icons are really great
Though I know they do make some irate
When they're used to show appreciation
And not just wanton infiltration
Of your Flickr Photostreams
Which does happen, so it seems
Then that's OK -
(It would really make my day!)
But to get one just to fill someone's quota
For that I care not one iota
So maybe it is wise to add a comment
And save us numpties potential torment.
Sorry for the odd ode.
Denise said it all, really.
All the best!
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I think there is a bit of over-reacting here and even nastines, personal attacks and I can't see the reason.
I like comments. The kind where someone said something of their own...the rules of the groups are so ridiulous that often one is felt he or she must give something and hurry to the next. These are only good if you want to count comments or something. 9The # game)
I try not to join groups that expect you personaly to support the group with a lot of time. What I consider important is remembering to, most of the time, say something real....OR WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT IS NO MORE THAN A STAMP: words and award and invite all with one click.
It is up to each of us to do what we would like to see for ourselves.
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I like the awards and invites, personally. And I give them out from time to time.
BUT (and this is a really big BUT) I'd much rather have your own personal two cents. If you want to give me an award, great, but add in a few words of your own. Even if all you say is just "great shot", it makes the otherwise generic award more personal, and more meaningful.
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Speech path girl is correct. I love getting any kind of comments including icons, but it would be nice if people would say something more than just the icon. Tell me what you like about the photo that made you post the icon. Otherwise it feels like you are just filling out a quota or something. (Which I think some people are.)
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HEY I am all about Awards and praise. So come over and visit my photo stream. And my photo Path into his Sould has been selected to be publish into Best of 2008 Photography. YEAH ME! First time being published...so excited.
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I totall agree with you DaylandS! While I have joined some of the groups that require you to post certain # of comments if you post 1...it tends to get difficult. I tend to avoid posting in those groups if possible. I wnat to know what each person sees on my photos I have posted. I am a beginner and for the more advanced people to give comments helps me learn how to make my work better. So just keep them coming...but always enjoy happy thoughts. :)
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Wouldn't it be just as easy to delete them?
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My tuppence worth :D
Personalised comments are, of course, preferable rather than cookie-cutter pasting of a gif. But it in no way 'ruins' the photo it's pasted in the comments of, however gaudy (yes, this is of course a matter of opinion, but i'm reminded of the interview with an author who's book had been adapted less-than-faithfully for the screen. when the interview asked how he felt about his book being destroyed he pulled a puzzled expression and looked pointedly at the bookshelf. "no, it's still there and seems fine.")
I personally think that it is a little much to expect people to check on someone's profile before posting a comment on a picture they have seen and enjoyed - this site takes up enough of my life as it is, thanks! Placing a note below your pictures would seem to be a solution, although i'm sure some people will not see that, or even ignore it.
flickr is a 'community' in that we share interests and, to some degree, values. Amongst the ways we seek praise and 'status' in the community are the amounts of that out photos and streams are viewed, commented upon ad favourited - or by joining a sub-section that objects to this in some degree or other.
Not everyone will agree on everything (the inclusion of video, for example) and it is possible that the group one joined may change into something one no longer likes. Or it may be able to maintain diversity and thrive from it.
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I rarely get invites and icon awards so give me the shiniest, sparkliest, brilliantest, glitteriest icon awards, I'll be happy.
I am also wondering how Cybergabi became a member of this group if not for the icon awards/invite from someone who appreciates her photos? She could have chosen, "no, thank you, I'll not join your group" when she was awarded the glittery icon.
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I only joined the group so I could open this thread - because I got one of those glittering icons from this group on my stream. When I'm done here, I will leave it again.
None of my photos are nor will be posted here.
Originally posted 59 months ago.
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Cybergabi edited this topic 59 months ago.
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PS: To those who think it's too much to check people's profile pages if you want to comment on their photos - this is an extract from an fmail I received lately on the subject:
I read about your dislike of icons on your invites. Would it not be easier for you to delete the the invites rather then us having to check everyones profile when most do not have much to say. If I had to check all profiles and check all group rules then flickr would cease to be fun and become very boring work.
Here's what I replied:
"Why doesn't the state just go around and collect the trash people throw out of their cars? If I were to find a trash can wherever I drive, driving would cease to be fun and become very boring work." Voilà. That's how your argumentation sounds in my ears.
Funny thing is, whenever I comment on a photo of someone who I don't know, I DO check their profile, just out of curiosity. If I see an exhibition in an art gallery or museum, I also want to know something about the artists who have exhibited there. And I wouldn't walk around and leave quick stencil graffitis on the wall next to their work if I had something to say about the painting or sculpture.
What makes flickr so interesting for me is exactly the relationship aspect, the closeness to the artists out there. Meeting people who share the common interest in photography, getting to know them and building friendships with people with who I can click (literally and figuratively, he). That's far from boring and far from work as well - it's wonderful, deep and intimate, and I have found so many many great people out there who in the meantime have become veritable real-life friends too - who I meet, who I visit over the weekend, with who I go shooting, who inspire me with their work, who share their ideas and knowledge with me, or who are there for me when I need them.
I am aware that there are other people who want it differently. Who enjoy just leaving SOMETHING on as many photos as possible. But, honestly - that's what faves are for. They are impersonal. They just tell me someone likes my photo. No need to clutter the comment section with ugly flashing thingies. A comment should reflect something a bit more personal than just a graphic borrowed from some group. You know, I even prefer a comment written in Kanji or Arabic or some other strange script which I don't understand over a glitter award. At least it shows that someone wanted to say something about my photo, and if I am curious, I can ask one of my contacts native to these countries what it's all about.
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Cybergabi edited this topic 59 months ago.
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Hi Cybergabi. I have commented on your photostream in the past about this topic and I must say I have given this problem more thought than any other single issue I've run into since joining Flickr. I don't mind getting icons and invitation, but I must say those animated, glittering, garish things annoy me a great deal. And I prefer that people say something personal rather than cut-paste-run.
Restricting comments to friends probably is the best way to deal with this, as your friends understand how you feel. I have, on occasion, found a picture I really like that lacks a public comment box. Then I have to write a Flickr mail to express my opinion. If it is good enough, it is worth the trouble.
You already know I have a very high opinion of your work. You are a really good artist and I believe you are entitled to have things the way you want them. I do, however feel the responsibility is yours to arrange that, rather than blaming others.
Take care and I hope you can find a way to be happier in Flickr.
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Thanks for the reply - very much appreciated. I didn't want to blame others, just make them stop and think for a bit before they go on an award spree all over strangers' photos. Restricting comments to friends only would be a sad thing, since I particularly cherish when a stranger drops by and says something about a photo of mine.
It's not that I am unhappy on Flickr, on the contrary - but I would love people to be more conscious about what they do. And it's not just me who feels that way. A big part of the flickr community thinks like me - also people who are not among my contacts. The best way would be an opt-out-of-awards functionality in anyone's preferences. That way, people could just choose whether others can leave awards on their streams or not.
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Cybergabi edited this topic 59 months ago.
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I've just been invited to post a picture to three threads. All three were compulsory comment threads, which I rarely join, as I would rather comment because I want to, not because I am obliged. All three obliged me to use comment codes. Only one, Citrit, provided a simple code with a small picture. The others were large images. All three had images in the group that I would have happily commented on. But I don't like leaving pictures in other people's streams. Therefore I joined Citrit but not the other two.
I understand that some people have problems writing a comment, and respect that a comment code has a place in an international community like Flickr. But I'd rather have it optional, and I'd rather have it small, if not optional. I don't mind getting them as long as they are a sensible size, although I'd rather have a real comment than a paste-in, but I don't like giving them because they are a nuisance for people to scroll down through, and take time to load. Not everyone has a fast internet connection.
So thank you for making your comment code fairly small. And thanks for the invite, too.
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this thread has cracked me up...I wish I had such trivial things to worry about
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Give me 8 more hours in my day to check profiles and I'll consider doing that.
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It is always a pleasure to receive kind words or invitation icons. There are so many great photos around so when somebody stops by to comment, encourage or invite, it really is an act of kindness and generosity.
life is simply too short and too beautiful to pass through without comment.
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I am in a number of compusory-comment groups and, yes, I post group icons on pics in those pools. I assume that anyone who has submitted a photo to such a pool is comfortable with the group icon showing up in that photo's comments.
Even though there is a quota to fill, I always make sure I put my mandatory comments on pictures I think are really beautiful or interesting or which are somehow meaningful for me at that moment.
I also try and personalize my comments by adding my own thoughts or response to the picture, but sometimes I can't really formulate what it is I like. I'm one of those "I don't know much about art, but I know what I like" types, at least when it comes to photography. As I learn more, I will become more confident in this, but for now I feel like a big phony if I try to comment on the technical aspects of a photo. So, often, all I can honestly muster is "lovely" or "nice light." And then that itself starts to feel repetitive, leading me to wonder if it's any better than just using the comment code alone. Either way, my point is that I have really enjoyed the picture.
One advantage of the comment code over comments alone is that it lets the artist know where his or her photos are being seen and (hopefully) where those photos have actually been enjoyed.
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This is exactly why I never give invites (other than that one time I dumped a ton of them on a comment for one of my friend's pictures, only because it's fun to annoy your friends).
But I enjoy the groups. Flickr is a photo-sharing site, of course, but there's no reason it can't be more than that. If people want to have fun games (most "post 1-comment x" groups are basically games to get some number of awards in order to get a trophy or whatever) I see no reason that they can't.
But it's not that hard to check if the person has explicitly stated "no awards or invites" in the image description or title. I know of several users who put that disclaimer in every photo they post.
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